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16 July 2004, 13:08
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VW Touareg engine
Just been driving around in a Touareg for the last week - great fun BUT what the hell is it trying to be? It certainly is NOT an offroader! 45 section tyres and rocks do not mix! Ultra low profiles are not of much use in mud either - be ok on sand I suppose but there isn't much sand driving in Europe.
It is NOT a sports car either - sports cars have low cg of good cornering - the Touareg is not low!
No my main impression of the car was - FAB engine - it really is brilliant BUT the thirst - yes its smooth - yes it got loads of grunt - but so has a 5litre V8 petrol - with about the same economy!
As a car engine it does not make a lot of sense BUT for a RIB - what an amazing engine it would be - 308bhp as standard - and quite light - very smooth V10.
It really would make a brilliant lightweight marine diesel - apparently VW are working with Scania on a marine version - can't wait - all they have to do is find an outdrive leg that will take the power - the torque figures are even higher than the Yanmars.
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16 July 2004, 14:44
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A Lola chassised car raced at Le Mans this year with one of these engines. It retired due to clutch problems IIRC.
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16 July 2004, 14:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
- all they have to do is find an outdrive leg that will take the power - the torque figures are even higher than the Yanmars.
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Therin lies the problem!!
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16 July 2004, 15:03
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- all they have to do is find an outdrive leg that will take the power - .
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Jet drive that’s what they need (I think we've had this discussion before )
Des
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16 July 2004, 15:39
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Jet drive that’s what they need (I think we've had this discussion before )
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According to my good mate at Jets Marivent, you loose 10% of you hp when you hang a jet on it.
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16 July 2004, 16:10
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According to my good mate at Jets Marivent, you loose 10% of you hp when you hang a jet on it.
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All drive systems have losses. A gearbox wil account for 5% and direction changes in the drive layout will be the same, so my outdrive probably looses 15%.
in a typical car it can be as much as 15% and a 4x4 much more.
Des
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16 July 2004, 17:04
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why does everyone these days say looses instead of loses???? I see it everywhere - even on the BBC website - think it may be something to do with automatic spellchecking etc.
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16 July 2004, 17:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
why does everyone these days say looses instead of loses???? I see it everywhere - even on the BBC website - think it may be something to do with automatic spellchecking etc.
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My bugbear is people who do not use a capital letter to begin a sentence.
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16 July 2004, 17:55
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16 July 2004, 18:30
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My contact at Landrover told me they had had two other engine options on the drawing at one point for the new disco; V8 diesel and V10 diesel, they've opted as most know, for the powerful but compact V6.
I thought about a marine option for the veedub v10 too this little fantasy kept me on tickover for a couple of days. Does make you wonder if they'll ever get to doing similar with a diesel outboard previously the domain of low power units.
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16 July 2004, 20:02
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well you WOULD your a woman.................
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16 July 2004, 20:23
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Quote:
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well you WOULD your a woman.................
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Another of my bugbears is people who do not know the difference between your and you're...
Sorry, Codprawn, couldn't resist!
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16 July 2004, 22:25
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Mmmm. Just to get back to the thread for a moment, you do realise that V-Dub do now produce a marine diesel engine. Not sure where you'd buy one from but I suppose Germany would be a good start. I'd certainly have one after experiencing their latest TDi cars.
And on the subject of bugbears. Effect and affect really gets me. Almost as much as bought and brought. I could go on
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16 July 2004, 22:49
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And on the subject of bugbears.
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And what about the wrong usage of its and it's? Why do so many people put the apostrophe in when they're using the word in the possessive form e.g. 'the Touareg and it's V10 engine' instead of the correct version 'its V10 engine'. 'It's' is only used to mean 'it is'. And so endeth today's lesson.
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16 July 2004, 22:51
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16 July 2004, 23:08
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Touche I really did deserve that one - teach me to try to be clever after 5 hrs mountain biking in the rain!!!!
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16 July 2004, 23:56
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Yes Miss
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17 July 2004, 12:59
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And what about the lameented apostrophe! cant remeber the last time I 'phoned someone.
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17 July 2004, 13:34
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Ooo… somebody advising on the correct use of the possessive pronoun…! Makes me smell the chalk…
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17 July 2004, 14:03
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ya wa i du nu wat y on ubout!!!
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