Water trap cheap on ebay

Nos4r2 · 05 November 2006, 21:46

Any use to anyone?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DIESEL-FUEL-WA...QQcmdZViewItem

jyasaki · 06 November 2006, 18:25

I use a Racor 10 micron filter/water separator.

Specifically, it's a Racor 32013, which is a 3213 filter element and a clear plastic bowl with a drain. Have not had it filter any water yet (about ayear and a half so far.) Due to replace the element soon, I suppose (I think they run about $30, as I recall.)

Sorry; I initailly read you first line as "Anyone use one?"

jky

Rodan · 06 November 2006, 18:51

hmmm, bearing in mind this weekends smart craft stop having fun now announcement a clear bowl may be a wise and timely investment...........

yoyo · 06 November 2006, 23:27

Hi guys.

I am very interested to hear about your thoughts on fuel/water separators.
Can we have a quick poll to get some rough % of users.

Q: Do many ribsters employ one?

Q: Are they really necessary for low hour leisure users?

Q: Obviously I can see the benefits of separating out H2o from your fuel, but isn’t it the case that fresh fuel on every occasion is OK?.

Q: How does water enter the fuel system?

Q: I will be fitting out the controls etc for my new motor this week, so my main question is should I be fitting one of those separators also?

Your comments are eagerly awaited.

Nos4r2 · 07 November 2006, 03:42

Low leisure hour users tend to leave tanks empty for long periods allowing condensation to form. Does that answer it all

You may get water in with fuel at the pump too.

I'll be using one when mine arrives-up til now I've been religiously cleaning the small one under my cowl.

jyasaki · 07 November 2006, 18:16

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Originally Posted by yoyo

Hi guys.
Q: Do many ribsters employ one?

Don't know. I do. The canister is mounted on the transom. Easy to see and drain (hasn't been necessary yet), not too hard to get to to replace it.

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Q: Are they really necessary for low hour leisure users?

Well, it depends.

"Necessary", as in your boat won't run without one? No.

"Necessary", as in a wise thing to have in case of fuel contamination that would at best be an inconvenience, and at worst possibly put you in a fatal situation? Could be. In my book, it's a pretty cheap insurance policy.

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Q: Obviously I can see the benefits of separating out H2o from your fuel, but isn’t it the case that fresh fuel on every occasion is OK?.

As long as you know, for a fact, that the fueling station is supplying 100% water-free gas, and that rainwater hasn't seeped in to the tank, no moisture has condensed and pooled in the bottom of the tank, and you haven't gotten seawater in through the vent, sure. Else, it's a gamble.

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Q: How does water enter the fuel system?

See above.

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Q: I will be fitting out the controls etc for my new motor this week, so my main question is should I be fitting one of those separators also?

Again, it depends. It's your boat, your choice. I personally think it's rediculous to skimp on the $100-odd price of a water separator, but that's me.

jky

yoyo · 19 November 2006, 16:47

Hi guys,

Ok, I've taken the sound advise offerd on this forum and I am getting a fuel/water seperator.

Q: Should the seperator be fitted inline before or after the fuel priming bulb?

I have trawled for pics of these filters and have found both types of installation! Is one correct or does it not matter which way around it is fitted.

Nos4r2 · 19 November 2006, 17:24

Depends on what unit you're going to use... I can see pros and cons either way depending on if it's got an inbuilt filter or not, seethrough bowl or not....

Those ones at the start are still available but a different ebay number:-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DIESEL-FUEL-WA...QQcmdZViewItem

Charles · 19 November 2006, 17:25

Water seperator then primer bulb then engine, that way when you are priming the fuel gets sucked through the seperator.

bedajim · 20 November 2006, 05:46

Hi

I used one of these on my 50

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...054920585&rd=1

alt · 22 November 2006, 11:12

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Originally Posted by bedajim

Hi

I used one of these on my 50

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...054920585&rd=1

Quite the price difference! My merc 1.7 diesel's fuel filter is both a filter and water seperator (With a drain plug) - woohoo!

bedajim · 22 November 2006, 11:17

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Originally Posted by alt

Quite the price difference! My merc 1.7 diesel's fuel filter is both a filter and water seperator (With a drain plug) - woohoo!

So is that?

alt · 22 November 2006, 11:18

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Originally Posted by bedajim

So is that?

Yeah but I was comparing the £65 as opposed to the £10 one in the first post of this thread

bedajim · 22 November 2006, 11:29

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Originally Posted by alt

Yeah but I was comparing the £65 as opposed to the £10 one in the first post of this thread

ok

al40 · 23 November 2006, 21:52

I also use one of these (along with my water seperator)

http://www.mrfunnel.com/

to filter the fuel as I'm filling up the tank from jerry can or plastic 5l can. It's surprising how much water appears! Can get them from most chandlers.

May be overkill but then again, prevention is better than getting stuck!

Rodan · 23 November 2006, 22:56

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Originally Posted by al40

I also use one of these (along with my water seperator)

http://www.mrfunnel.com/

to filter the fuel as I'm filling up the tank from jerry can or plastic 5l can. It's surprising how much water appears! Can get them from most chandlers.

May be overkill but then again, prevention is better than getting stuck!

I was looking at one of those - does it slow down the filling rate much?

al40 · 28 November 2006, 22:54

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Originally Posted by Rodan

I was looking at one of those - does it slow down the filling rate much?

It does slow it down a bit (like any funnel). The flow rates are on the website under "models" section although I suspect these are U.S. gallons (4 litres).

I'm guessing it takes approx 1-2 mins to drain a 20l jerry can into it but my filler means the funnel is at an angle so doesn't get optimum flow.