What spark plug brand? - Page 2

Tim M · 22 August 2004, 17:15

Excuse my ignorance in this matter, but, if my plugs have "had it" could that be the reason why my engine won't start.

Just tried the "float test" as prescribed on the above website; my plugs sunk like lead weights, indicating that they need replacing. Is this a reliable test?

Rogue Wave · 22 August 2004, 18:45

[QUOTE=codprawn]

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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

Well if your marinising your Alfa romeo I'd listen to codprawn otherwise listen to those with some experience.

PLENTY of experience with ALL kinds of engine ta very much!

I stick by what I say - different engines like different kinds of plugs - experiment!

That's not the impression I get from your posts

Mr-d · 22 August 2004, 18:55

Is this the part where Jerry Springer puts his coiled up hand to his upper lip and you start lifting up the chairs and then Steve runs inbetween and makes you sit down again? Also, the crowd goes mad screaming "Jerry, Jerry!"

codprawn · 22 August 2004, 19:27

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Originally Posted by timofengland

Excuse my ignorance in this matter, but, if my plugs have "had it" could that be the reason why my engine won't start.

Just tried the "float test" as prescribed on the above website; my plugs sunk like lead weights, indicating that they need replacing. Is this a reliable test?

Definitely - loved that one!

codprawn · 22 August 2004, 19:29

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Originally Posted by Mr-d

Is this the part where Jerry Springer puts his coiled up hand to his upper lip and you start lifting up the chairs and then Steve runs inbetween and makes you sit down again? Also, the crowd goes mad screaming "Jerry, Jerry!"

Nah can't be bothered - I have never attacked anyone's credibility - just wonder why people can be so petty minded!

badbaws · 23 August 2004, 23:31

Why attack some ones credibility????
Because some people offering advice haven't got a clue.. hey Captain Codfish!!!

codprawn · 24 August 2004, 02:10

What is such bad advice about suggesting that different plugs suit different engines?

Why have you posted under another name?

Why do I even bother answering someone like you????????

Rogue Wave · 24 August 2004, 09:19

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Why have you posted under another name?

You flatter yourself!

If you want an answer to your question of why I think the advice is bad then I'll tell you even though it makes me petty minded.

Firstly I value this forum immensly and believe that people should be able to visit this site ask a question and get good correct advice and as a result of this and the fact this is an open forum we should be able to challenge suspect advice.

Nearly everyone advise Mr-d to use NGK plugs except yourself and your advice was backed up by your experiences with car engines!

To me ribbing isn't about going to sea it's about coming back and all effort and thought must be put into the reliability of the engine so advising to use sparkplugs that corrode quicker is surely not the way to go. Obviously safety ekwipment is also vital

Hightower · 24 August 2004, 10:04

I've got a couple of Champions knocking about the shed. I'm off to buy a Johnson to put em in

Rogue Wave · 24 August 2004, 10:22

:d

badbaws · 24 August 2004, 10:23

Well Captain Cod Fish the fact you think that Rogue Wave has changed his user name just to slight you basically shows your complete inept grasp of anything and everything...
If you got your head out of your arse and looked at our profiles.. you might know that their is a distinct difference.. kinda like when you compare two spark plugs their is a distinct difference!!
NGK spark plugs are wonderful and champion spark plugs are not. Rogue Wave and I both understand that the aim of any boat trip is to return home and having used Champion and not returned but then using NGK and have done then maybe talking crap about cars on a boating website is just plan daft..
My car does not get it's wheels wet near a slipway let alone spend 340 days out on the water per year having it's spark plugs attacked by corrosion...
Oh yes just so you understand I am not making a personal attack on your ignorance, just try not to pass your ignorance off as "actual" knowledge...

codprawn · 24 August 2004, 11:22

So talking about car engines has no place here? And what are most modern boat engines based on???????

I have worked on a massive range of engines - from cox baby bees at 0.49 ci to Merlins and Bristol Centarus radial engines with all sorts in between - including a few gas turbines - I have my own workshop where I can mill or turn most parts and even cut gears if I wish.

I admit I do not have as much boating experience as many here and have never said anything different.

Why the attitudes people????

Anyway enough of this crap - life is too short!

Matt · 24 August 2004, 12:54

So you've not worked on everything then, a cox pee wee 0.020 is smaller, and the tee dee 0.010 the smallest production engine in the world.

Mr-d · 24 August 2004, 14:03

Hey Hightower, what's wrong with Johnson?! Dad has one on his sailing boat, it works every time, that's why he wont let me touch it!

Nick Hearne · 24 August 2004, 14:14

I think this is all getting a bit personal!
A quote from Tue who should know his stuff,

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Originally Posted by tue

We only use NGK's at work unless its a Johnson/evinrude. They seem very keen to only run best on Champions?? Some plugs that Champion do and Johnson/evinrude recommened don't have an NGK equivilant

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So it is not only Mr Cod who is saying that some engines like certain plugs!
I have a Johnson which likes Champions, I had it serviced last year & the mechanic said they where just fine & did not knead changing! I changed them this year but kept the old ones as they looked all OK so now I have a set of spars that I know work!
Nick

codprawn · 24 August 2004, 14:36

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Originally Posted by MadMat

So you've not worked on everything then, a cox pee wee 0.020 is smaller, and the tee dee 0.010 the smallest production engine in the world.

Wouldn't mind though - just love nice engines of all descriptions - from steam to gas turbine - what I don't like are all the bits they stick on them - Sir Frank Whittle once said that the best thing about the gas turbine was it's sheer simplicity - Rolls Royce turned round and said - "don't worry that will soon change" - how right they were!!!

Matt · 24 August 2004, 14:52

What, like boats and aeroplanes?

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Originally Posted by codprawn

..what I don't like are all the bits they stick on them...

codprawn · 24 August 2004, 15:28

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Originally Posted by MadMat

What, like boats and aeroplanes?

HA HA - no I meant all the ancilleries!!!

Manos · 24 August 2004, 16:03

CHAMPION
http://www.unitedbearing.com/CHAMPIONSPmarine.html
http://www.manddsmallengine.com/champion/

NGK
http://www.basicpower.com/127.htm
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/products/marine/

A few links for both Champion & NGK

Mr-d · 24 August 2004, 16:15

Okay this is all solved now, i've ordered NGK.
(well, i think i have.. guy is doing the calculations right now for all the parts)
probably going to be £200+ for all the parts... there goes my freedom...