Which 50/60hp would you buy?

[Black]

when I actually spoke to the Honda dealer he pretty much matched the quote I had for an ETEC.....

Before I get shot by the pro ETEC lobby, and I don't want to just recommend what I have... as we can all do that...

an 8 metre Scorpion I use now and again has a 250ETEC on the back and it bloody rocks, the noise, the acceleration, but for low speed trolling as I mainly do with the family, the Honda suits our current needs better.....

All in the name of a reasoned debate!

Al

[clydeoutboards]

They dont even have an office in the UK any more and even Tohatsu do! think also of the threads with problems on ETEC's and its still a 2 stroke which if they were that good we would all have them in our cars.

either way good luck and safe boating

Dave

[NSS]

Okay, I take all those points, but this is my dilemma...

I can't afford the additional £1200 and I doubt very much I'll get a deal from Suzi/Yam/Honda or even Merc/Mariner for a 60hp that will match the price of the E-TEC.

So, my choice is between a smaller 4-stroke (50hp) or the E-TEC 60hp.

Btw, the E-TEC is brand new, 2012 build, not old stock.

[A1an]

Like Peter says, get the ETEC quote in writing and use it as a bargaining tool with the other dealers.

I'm reckoning your not going to need that extra £1200.

[PeterM]

Originally Posted by NSS

I doubt very much I'll get a deal from Suzi/Yam/Honda or even Merc/Mariner for a 60hp that will match the price of the E-TEC.

I think you'd be surprised what they will do - given the chance.

I'm not anti 2 strokes -infact I am a fan of the noise if nothing else , Yam & Honda have decades of 4stroke development behind them ...Etecs are the odd one out for me. I'm all for being differant , but when does differant become 'quirky' ?

[ppenman]

Originally Posted by A1an

Like Peter says, get the ETEC quote in writing and use it as a bargaining tool with the other dealers.

I'm reckoning your not going to need that extra £1200.

The place where I've got my rib is selling Suzuki df60's. They were by far the best price when I bought a df140 last year.

DF60ATL £8000. BBPR price £6365.

How much have you been offered the etec for ?

Peter.

[A1an]

My pal has a 9m Cheetah with twin Honda 135's that he uses for creel fishing, when I was out with him the other day I noticed the engines hour clocks, there was 7100 hours on each, I remarked on the high hours and he said that they have never missed a beat!

He's hoping for 10-12k hours out of them before he changes them.

He did also mention that the servicing was pricey.

[NSS]

Originally Posted by ppenman

The place where I've got my rib is selling Suzuki df60's. They were by far the best price when I bought a df140 last year.

DF60ATL £8000. BBPR price £6365.

How much have you been offered the etec for ?

Peter.

Let's just say that I've been offered the DF60 for less than that, and the E-TEC is a further £1200 less again.

But I'll take the earlier advice, get the quote in writing, and then hawk it around the 4-stroke dealers at the boat show next week.

[Downhilldai]

What boat is this motor going on?

[NSS]

Originally Posted by Downhilldai

What boat is this motor going on?

It's a Walker Bay Generation 430 - probably not many people's choice but it suits my purpose.

[NSS]

Originally Posted by NSS

It's a Walker Bay Generation 430 - probably not many people's choice but it suits my purpose.

LOL, that killed any interest in this thread. Obviously not a 'proper' RIB

[Downhilldai]

What sort of use will it be getting?

[NSS]

Originally Posted by Downhilldai

What sort of use will it be getting?

Mainly for days out on the Solent (I usually launch from Warsash), over to the Island and along the coast between Lymington and Chichester perhaps. Wouldn't mind going round the island someday, but appreciate I'd need to pick the right day!

Usually 2 to 4 adults, sometimes plus the family dog.
Not bothered about pulling skier/toys.
Unlikely to go out in anything more than a F4/F5.
More interested in comfort than outright performance.

[Downhilldai]

Sounds like a 4-stroke would suit your needs and would be a lot more tolerable than a noisier 2-stroke, as the helm/passenger seat is very close to the motor.

There appears to be a lot of weight aft (presumably, the fuel tank & battery sit in the moulding behind the helm seat?), so a light weight motor would help the balance. The dog may have to go in the bow locker.

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by NSS

It's a Walker Bay Generation 430 - probably not many people's choice but it suits my purpose.

What would be your requirements from a rib?

[NSS]

Originally Posted by Downhilldai

Sounds like a 4-stroke would suit your needs and would be a lot more tolerable than a noisier 2-stroke, as the helm/passenger seat is very close to the motor.

There appears to be a lot of weight aft (presumably, the fuel tank & battery sit in the moulding behind the helm seat?), so a light weight motor would help the balance. The dog may have to go in the bow locker.

We've been used to sitting closer to the motor in the Avon 340!

As for weight distribution, the 66 litre fuel tank is built in and positioned below deck up near the bow, and the battery is under the steering console.

[willk]

Generation 430 by Walker Bay Inflatables - YouTube

[NSS]

Yep, that's the one.

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by NSS

Yep, that's the one.

Which others were on the shortlist?

[NSS]

Originally Posted by Mollers

Which others were on the shortlist?

Initially looked at the Brig Falcon 450, Avon Adventure 410/470 and Ribtec 450, but decided none really did it for me. Turned my attention to the Zodiac Yachtline 420 and Avon Seasport DL but discounted those too as both have a relatively shallow V hull.

I'd looked at the Generation models at the Boatshow in 2010, but initially excluded them on cost, but the deeper V hull combined with the 'deluxe' layout/features brought it back into the frame. There's not much to compare, and I got a good deal on the showroom display boat.