Which 50/60hp would you buy?

NSS · 03 September 2012, 11:14

Having just bought a new toy, I need an engine for it. It will take a 50 or 60hp and I'm inclined toward buying new rather than used. Given the array of manufacturers to select from, which would you choose and why?

clydeoutboards · 03 September 2012, 11:35

Hi

This depends on a few factors i.e. how much you will use the boat and what features you deem to be the most important i.e.

Acceleration
Fuel Consumption
Devaluation
Availability of parts ( if there is a problem)
length of warranty

Dave

NSS · 03 September 2012, 12:00

Most important factors for me would be...

Reliability
Fuel consumption
Quiet operation
Warranty/Back-up
Residual value

Searider · 03 September 2012, 12:14

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Originally Posted by NSS

Most important factors for me would be...

Reliability
Fuel consumption
Quiet operation
Warranty/Back-up
Residual value

If buying new:

Reliability - Yamaha? Suzuki? Honda? Any others peeps?
Fuel consumption - Most 4 strokes will be pretty similar. Would imagine an etec is there or thereabouts at normal running speed but might not be so goofd on idle.
Quiet operation - all 4 strokes pretty quiet - anyone care to comment on etec?
Warranty/Back-up - This may depend on who your local dealer is.
Residual value - Yamaha?

clydeoutboards · 03 September 2012, 12:48

Hi

from what you have said I would look at Yamaha and Honda.

both of these have uk offices and both are used a lot by the commercial guys. Yam has been known for years as the most reliable, Honda's reputation has been growing over the last 15-20 years as they have only made 4 strokes but do offer an extra year warranty. Both or great on fuel and v quiet. The yam will hold its value a bit better than the Honda but parts if it does go wrong can be a pain (we have just ordered from the states due to a 8 week plus lead time from Yam for a 150hp 2008 engine) where as Honda are few days and we never had to wait longer than a week.

I would then check where your local dealers are for both of these and go with the one you hear better things about and how far away they are.

SPR · 03 September 2012, 12:52

yamaha 70 - 4 stroke weighs same as 50/60 more

S.

NSS · 03 September 2012, 13:19

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Originally Posted by SPR

yamaha 70 - 4 stroke weighs same as 50/60 more

S.

Actually, the Yam 70 is a little heavier. Okay, only 5kgs but the boat is only rated to max 60hp anyway.

NSS · 03 September 2012, 13:32

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Originally Posted by Searider

If buying new:

Reliability - Yamaha? Suzuki? Honda? Any others peeps?

Those three would probably top my list at present, though I'm open to persuasion on others.

Interestingly, the Honda 50 is a lighter engine at approx 97kg compared to the BF60 at 113kg, the Yam 50/60 both come in at 114kg, and the Suzuki DF50/60 at 104kg each.

... but I guess such differences are negligible on an outfit that will be circa 500kgs plus the weight of those aboard.

NSS · 03 September 2012, 13:53

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Originally Posted by clydeoutboards

Hi

from what you have said I would look at Yamaha and Honda.

both of these have uk offices and both are used a lot by the commercial guys. Yam has been known for years as the most reliable, Honda's reputation has been growing over the last 15-20 years as they have only made 4 strokes but do offer an extra year warranty. Both or great on fuel and v quiet. The yam will hold its value a bit better than the Honda but parts if it does go wrong can be a pain (we have just ordered from the states due to a 8 week plus lead time from Yam for a 150hp 2008 engine) where as Honda are few days and we never had to wait longer than a week.

I would then check where your local dealers are for both of these and go with the one you hear better things about and how far away they are.

Yamaha/Suzuki dealer on my doorstep, though being located near to the Hamble River there are dealers for all the major manufacturers within a 15-mile radius.

NSS · 03 September 2012, 21:51

Any thoughts regarding the Evinrude would be appreciated

Boats&Outboards · 03 September 2012, 22:06

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Originally Posted by NSS

Any thoughts regarding the Evinrude would be appreciated

Ask Kerny

kerny · 03 September 2012, 22:07

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Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards

Ask Kerny

I've been waiting for that one

Boats&Outboards · 03 September 2012, 22:08

Sorry couldn't resist. Seriously though I hope you get it sorted

csjukes · 03 September 2012, 22:10

Evinrude engines are fantastic, own a 50hp and it's a beast! Huge torque and acceleration, very efficient and no servicing for 3years or 300 hours!!! It's small and great looking unlike yamaha and Honda engines and that matters to me.
Here's a nice video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I0...e_gdata_player

And another

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duf1y...e_gdata_player

The proofs there...

kerny · 03 September 2012, 22:26

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Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards

Sorry couldn't resist. Seriously though I hope you get it sorted

Thanks

I'm sure LPB will sort it.

NSS · 03 September 2012, 22:28

I'm getting the impression that the Evinrude might be a bit of a Marmite engine.

I can see the weight advantage of the larger models, but at 50/60hp they are a similar weight to the 4-stroke alternatives. Is the extra torque really that noticeable, and is there a fuel consumption (including oil cost) penalty?

The no servicing for 3 years is attractive, but are they as reliable as the Yam/Suzi/Honda engines?

One more thing, I can't find prices online. Every dealer just says 'call for best prices'. Are they comparatively expensive, or is it just a case of they'll do all manner of deals to shift them?

kerny · 03 September 2012, 22:34

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Originally Posted by NSS

One more thing, I can't find prices online. Every dealer just says 'call for best prices'. Are they comparatively expensive, or is it just a case of they'll do all manner of deals to shift them?

prices here.

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