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30 November 2006, 07:50
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Make: Ballistic 7.8
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Yamaha 4 Stroke Timing Belt
Hi
Having recently got a rib with a 2000 4 stroke 115 I want to play safe and replace the timing belt, cant belive its £98!
Can anybody recomend a good US company to price one who posts to the UK?
I am going to remove the belt and try and match it off the manufacturer/numbers at the local motor factors just in case they can cross reference it but would prefer a yam one if cheap enough from the US.
Many Thanks
Mike
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30 November 2006, 11:17
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Town: boston
Boat name: Miss bad 61
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dude, pay the 98.
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30 November 2006, 12:27
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Town: Galway, West Eire
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That's crazy money, for a damn belt. Do a google, you'll find somewhere cheaper
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30 November 2006, 13:49
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Couldn't agree more - I hate paying over the odds for something that has just had loads of markups on it.
Car makers are very fond of this - they will sell you a clutch for £200 that would cost you £80 for something like a Borg and Beck - turns out Borg and Beck supplied the original anyway.
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30 November 2006, 18:00
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Mikeysam;
try Shipyard Island Marine, located in Wisconsin. Good guy, good prices, great service.
You can reach him (Andy) at andyjr@shipyardisland.com
You'll have to ask about the overseas thing, though.
jky
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30 November 2006, 21:32
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The beauty about a timing belt is it's very light and small, you could get it airmailed in 3 days for a few quid
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01 December 2006, 11:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Couldn't agree more - I hate paying over the odds for something that has just had loads of markups on it.
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That's a bit rich from someone who claims to be in the computer industry!
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03 December 2006, 22:07
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Have you tried pricing one for a Merc 115 4t? I'm told it's the same powerhead.
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04 December 2006, 20:48
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Good thing with buying the real thing is if it breaks due to faulty manufactor
they should cover the resulting damage to the engine.
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05 December 2006, 04:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy Smith
Good thing with buying the real thing is if it breaks due to faulty manufactor
they should cover the resulting damage to the engine.
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How could one prove that the damage was done before installing the 'real thing' though?! Take for example... I blow the valves in my engine, I buy a 'genuine' timing belt, fit it, then contact the supplier saying their belt blew my engine... Doesn't make sense!
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05 December 2006, 08:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alt
How could one prove that the damage was done before installing the 'real thing' though?! Take for example... I blow the valves in my engine, I buy a 'genuine' timing belt, fit it, then contact the supplier saying their belt blew my engine... Doesn't make sense!
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The belt will be damaged.If the valvegear hitting something stops the engine it's quite obvious-and you'll need a main dealer stamp to say when it was fitted.
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05 December 2006, 22:06
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If you are a DIY man then it wont help you but if it serviced at the dealers
then you are covered.
I would have thought that a good service history stamped up by a dealer
would make the boat worth more, i personaly would not buy an engine that had been serviced at home or the man down the road, no matter how good he thinks he his, you need all the lap top stuff.
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05 December 2006, 23:24
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Have to disagree with you. I'd much prefer to see someone with receipts of oil/filters/parts/etc. as opposed to a silly stamp. FSH's don't mean as much as they used to be. Sure you could have a monkey apprentice mechanic working on your engine, not taking half as much care as an owner would and still have a dealer stamp
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Originally Posted by Roy Smith
If you are a DIY man then it wont help you but if it serviced at the dealers
then you are covered.
I would have thought that a good service history stamped up by a dealer
would make the boat worth more, i personaly would not buy an engine that had been serviced at home or the man down the road, no matter how good he thinks he his, you need all the lap top stuff.
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07 December 2006, 22:35
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Thats ok for you but put the same boat/engine in boats and outboards for sale and see which one sells first, even if a monkey mechanic dose do the work its covered by the dealer warranty, if your mate dose it what recourse have you got.
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11 December 2006, 17:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy Smith
Thats ok for you but put the same boat/engine in boats and outboards for sale and see which one sells first, even if a monkey mechanic dose do the work its covered by the dealer warranty, if your mate dose it what recourse have you got.
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If you have receipts for the materials (oil, LU lube, plugs, etc.) most manufacturers will take it on good faith that the work was performed. Face it: changing the oil and filter is not rocket science, and the manufacturers know this.
jky
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11 December 2006, 19:59
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Town: Galway
Boat name: rockhopper
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timing belt
it is my experience that even if you get your car serviced by main dealer and if something else goes in your car you will be told they are not connected. this happened to me in new merc. eventually after its 2 year warranty, the turbo unit went then the Rocker head goes as a by product of turbo blow back. eventually i sold the car for cheap to a friend along with copy of service history so he was fully aware. it now runs fine...must be me... that is the last merc for some time. must be the same for boats.
you may as well do it yourself as there are no guarrantees worth a dam...
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13 December 2006, 00:11
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Aidan
What sort of millage were you doing. I ask because my brother is in Germany
and with 6 cyl diesal,s as long as they are serviced with a main dealer on time
with the service book they will guarantee the engine to 450,000 miles,
BMW offer a life time warrenty, there are exculsion such as no taxi,s
or commercial use.
The point is if you do it your self however good you are, the maker have a get out.
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19 December 2006, 13:14
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Country: USA
Town: boston
Boat name: Miss bad 61
Make: Crapko, AKA Mako
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it's not hard to change it, but I guess all depens Who you are, even a 4 cam belt is not a big deal. I don't work for Yamaha, or Merc , I have my own shop, dose that Make me less responsable for my work, I Can't see How. Must be an overthare thing . not that thare aren't any Hacks hear.
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19 December 2006, 15:02
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Country: USA
Town: boston
Boat name: Miss bad 61
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Oh ya, just so ya Know, to be an EXpert at Any one task, said task must be preformed 2000 times, With out failure. thats what it takes to be an Expert, so just cuzz you read some crap on Net don't by any strech make you an expert.
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