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22 May 2014, 11:38
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Winchburgh west Lothian
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Yamaha 55hp AE 663
Hi,having a mare with this engine,won't run on no1 cylinder until about 3500 rpm and then it still drops in and out,strong sparks both cylinders compression tested at 120psi on each cylinder,new cOils fitted tried swapping coils but no difference,ran engine with air box off and sprayed fuel into carb no difference anybody any ideas please.......?
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22 May 2014, 12:33
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Take out the reed block and have a look at the piston skirt.
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22 May 2014, 16:15
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Winchburgh west Lothian
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Hi Davie, what exactly am I looking for?
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22 May 2014, 17:23
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The bottom of the piston. I had a problem with one which had that exact problem. Why it burst into life now and again remains a mystery.
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22 May 2014, 17:33
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Winchburgh west Lothian
Boat name: Papa Bear V1
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How did you repair it,does the lower skirt break off ? Secondly is it a viable repair cost wise.
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22 May 2014, 21:06
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
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Checked piston skirt tonight all ok,,at a total loss now,I'm wondering if the spark it is producing is too weak and the plug is oiling up,or sparking at the wrong time.
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23 May 2014, 20:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: Leeds
Make: Valiant 450
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These are the worlds easiest engines PM me.
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23 May 2014, 20:44
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Yes, your small jet on the top carb will be blocked. Jet is housed under the small brass screw. Do not attempt to remove this jet unless you absolutely have to, they can chew up and write the carb off.
Simply blast through with air or even coke.
The small jet Is the slow running one.
Another thing to look for is the wires that enter the stator plate below the flywheel, at that age they go hard and crack, so when you close the throttle they touch and when you open it they don't and the spark fails.
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23 May 2014, 20:57
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This is the jet.
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23 May 2014, 21:21
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Member
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Hi Teccie, top jet cleaned all clean as a whistle,waiting on a CDI unit and stator ring.i changed a ignition coil but the replacement coil was from a 3 cyl 60hp which seemingly works at a different voltage.
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23 May 2014, 21:33
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If you have strong sparks, it is usually a fuel problem, fuel pump problem or a leaky seal. Can't see it being electrical, but stranger things have happened.
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23 May 2014, 21:44
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Winchburgh west Lothian
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See pm
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24 May 2014, 19:45
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See PM
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06 June 2014, 21:54
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
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We'll after some head scratching and an amazing amount of help from Rib Teccie another Yamaha 55 Two Cylinder is running like a Swiss watch,the problem turned out to be a blocked carb,replaced with a good 50hp carb using 55hp jets and all is well.This man is a credit to the forum without his help I would have had an expensive anchor but now looking forward to Loch Lomond tomorrow.Thanks again.
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06 June 2014, 23:15
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It's true, the amount of simple faults that can cause engines to be written off before their time is incredible. Without parts and knowledge, the process of repair can be horribly frustrating or expensive. Just try not to blow yourself and the garage up next time!!! Enjoy Loch Lomond, boat engine & water, were designed for each other.
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06 June 2014, 23:30
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
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Well done RIB-Teccie.
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08 June 2014, 22:46
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
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Out on Loch Lomond today,engine runs like a dream,pulls cleanly up to red line and still wants to go.Then disaster struck,control box fell apart and had no throttle or gear selection managed to get back to slip manually working throttle with hood off,back to the workshop!
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