Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 22 May 2014, 11:38   #1
Member
 
bmb779's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Winchburgh west Lothian
Boat name: Papa Bear V1
Make: Humber 5.3 Ataque
Length: 5m +
Engine: 40 Mercury four stro
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 159
RIBase
Yamaha 55hp AE 663

Hi,having a mare with this engine,won't run on no1 cylinder until about 3500 rpm and then it still drops in and out,strong sparks both cylinders compression tested at 120psi on each cylinder,new cOils fitted tried swapping coils but no difference,ran engine with air box off and sprayed fuel into carb no difference anybody any ideas please.......?
__________________
bmb779 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 May 2014, 12:33   #2
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: wormit
Boat name: lots of them
Make: various
Length: no boat
Engine: all types
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 632
Take out the reed block and have a look at the piston skirt.
__________________
Davie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 May 2014, 16:15   #3
Member
 
bmb779's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Winchburgh west Lothian
Boat name: Papa Bear V1
Make: Humber 5.3 Ataque
Length: 5m +
Engine: 40 Mercury four stro
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 159
RIBase
Hi Davie, what exactly am I looking for?
__________________
bmb779 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 May 2014, 17:23   #4
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: wormit
Boat name: lots of them
Make: various
Length: no boat
Engine: all types
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 632
The bottom of the piston. I had a problem with one which had that exact problem. Why it burst into life now and again remains a mystery.
__________________
Davie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 May 2014, 17:33   #5
Member
 
bmb779's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Winchburgh west Lothian
Boat name: Papa Bear V1
Make: Humber 5.3 Ataque
Length: 5m +
Engine: 40 Mercury four stro
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 159
RIBase
How did you repair it,does the lower skirt break off ? Secondly is it a viable repair cost wise.
__________________
bmb779 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 May 2014, 21:06   #6
Member
 
bmb779's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Winchburgh west Lothian
Boat name: Papa Bear V1
Make: Humber 5.3 Ataque
Length: 5m +
Engine: 40 Mercury four stro
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 159
RIBase
Checked piston skirt tonight all ok,,at a total loss now,I'm wondering if the spark it is producing is too weak and the plug is oiling up,or sparking at the wrong time.
__________________
bmb779 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 May 2014, 20:34   #7
Member
 
RIB-Teccie's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Leeds
Make: Valiant 450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 55HP
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 448
These are the worlds easiest engines PM me.
__________________
RIB-Teccie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 May 2014, 20:44   #8
Member
 
RIB-Teccie's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Leeds
Make: Valiant 450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 55HP
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 448
Yes, your small jet on the top carb will be blocked. Jet is housed under the small brass screw. Do not attempt to remove this jet unless you absolutely have to, they can chew up and write the carb off.

Simply blast through with air or even coke.

The small jet Is the slow running one.

Another thing to look for is the wires that enter the stator plate below the flywheel, at that age they go hard and crack, so when you close the throttle they touch and when you open it they don't and the spark fails.
__________________
RIB-Teccie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 May 2014, 20:57   #9
Member
 
RIB-Teccie's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Leeds
Make: Valiant 450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 55HP
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 448
This is the jet.Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByRIB Net1400875005.291026.jpg
Views:	323
Size:	37.8 KB
ID:	94904
__________________
RIB-Teccie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 May 2014, 21:21   #10
Member
 
bmb779's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Winchburgh west Lothian
Boat name: Papa Bear V1
Make: Humber 5.3 Ataque
Length: 5m +
Engine: 40 Mercury four stro
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 159
RIBase
Hi Teccie, top jet cleaned all clean as a whistle,waiting on a CDI unit and stator ring.i changed a ignition coil but the replacement coil was from a 3 cyl 60hp which seemingly works at a different voltage.
__________________
bmb779 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 May 2014, 21:33   #11
Member
 
RIB-Teccie's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Leeds
Make: Valiant 450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 55HP
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 448
If you have strong sparks, it is usually a fuel problem, fuel pump problem or a leaky seal. Can't see it being electrical, but stranger things have happened.
__________________
RIB-Teccie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 May 2014, 21:44   #12
Member
 
bmb779's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Winchburgh west Lothian
Boat name: Papa Bear V1
Make: Humber 5.3 Ataque
Length: 5m +
Engine: 40 Mercury four stro
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 159
RIBase
See pm
__________________
bmb779 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 May 2014, 19:45   #13
Member
 
RIB-Teccie's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Leeds
Make: Valiant 450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 55HP
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 448
See PM
__________________
RIB-Teccie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 June 2014, 21:54   #14
Member
 
bmb779's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Winchburgh west Lothian
Boat name: Papa Bear V1
Make: Humber 5.3 Ataque
Length: 5m +
Engine: 40 Mercury four stro
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 159
RIBase
We'll after some head scratching and an amazing amount of help from Rib Teccie another Yamaha 55 Two Cylinder is running like a Swiss watch,the problem turned out to be a blocked carb,replaced with a good 50hp carb using 55hp jets and all is well.This man is a credit to the forum without his help I would have had an expensive anchor but now looking forward to Loch Lomond tomorrow.Thanks again.
__________________
bmb779 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 June 2014, 23:15   #15
Member
 
RIB-Teccie's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Leeds
Make: Valiant 450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 55HP
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 448
It's true, the amount of simple faults that can cause engines to be written off before their time is incredible. Without parts and knowledge, the process of repair can be horribly frustrating or expensive. Just try not to blow yourself and the garage up next time!!! Enjoy Loch Lomond, boat engine & water, were designed for each other.
__________________
RIB-Teccie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 June 2014, 23:30   #16
Member
 
spartacus's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,650
RIBase
Well done RIB-Teccie.
__________________
Is that with or without VAT?
spartacus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 June 2014, 22:46   #17
Member
 
bmb779's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Winchburgh west Lothian
Boat name: Papa Bear V1
Make: Humber 5.3 Ataque
Length: 5m +
Engine: 40 Mercury four stro
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 159
RIBase
Out on Loch Lomond today,engine runs like a dream,pulls cleanly up to red line and still wants to go.Then disaster struck,control box fell apart and had no throttle or gear selection managed to get back to slip manually working throttle with hood off,back to the workshop!
__________________
bmb779 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 11:38.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.