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06 January 2022, 19:32
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Country: UK - England
Town: barrow-in-furness
Boat name: cap'n imo
Make: seapro
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard, petrol
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 56
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Yamaha 70beto engine repair mechanic wanted
Hi, as per my messages last year I have the above engine which I'm really struggling with.
I need professional advice as to where to go next. I've changed so many parts ( big thanks to Davie @ David Anderson marine), but the engine is still refusing to cool properly.
If anyone out there can offer a name, telephone number of someone reliable in the Cumbria area I would be ever so grateful.
Thanks in advance, Paul I.
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06 January 2022, 20:22
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,667
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I've reread the thread on this. Pictures would have been useful, given the combined knowledge of forum users. You'd be as well stick it on a pallet for someone to work on in their spare time with a budget for parts, given this is probably a labour intensive job to resolve. Whoever gets it will no doubt want to start from scratch anyway, water jacket off, head gasket off, check impeller, compression check, etc.
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06 January 2022, 23:25
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,063
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 57paulimo
Hi, as per my messages last year I have the above engine which I'm really struggling with.
I need professional advice as to where to go next. I've changed so many parts ( big thanks to Davie @ David Anderson marine), but the engine is still refusing to cool properly.
If anyone out there can offer a name, telephone number of someone reliable in the Cumbria area I would be ever so grateful.
Thanks in advance, Paul I.
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You've been dealing with the best man for the job take a ride up & drop it off or put it on a pallet .afaik theres no one around the lakes or northern England thats particularly good. All the lakes guys have life too easy with all the boats that never go anywhere with wealthy owners willing to pay over the odds for services so they dont like hard work like this.
Sent from my SM-G950F using RIB Net mobile app
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07 January 2022, 09:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: PORTSMOUTH
Make: Avon 5.4, Avon 3.4,
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90, Merc 30
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,003
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I've rebuilt that exact engine last summer ,happy to lend an ear
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08 January 2022, 09:43
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: wormit
Boat name: lots of them
Make: various
Length: no boat
Engine: all types
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 633
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If you canny get it sorted by March call me. Got a lot on my plate atm with windfarm jobs and a lorry load of new engines need fitted before I take on anymore + your boat needs water tested so need better weather. Ta
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12 January 2022, 11:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: barrow-in-furness
Boat name: cap'n imo
Make: seapro
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard, petrol
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 56
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Originally Posted by ollyit
I've rebuilt that exact engine last summer ,happy to lend an ear
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Thanks for the help guys.
To put it in a nutshell, the engine starts first, second time every time on the key, I'm assuming (perhaps wrongly ) that the engine running is fine, and that the fundamental issue is cooling.
A. Changed impeller, water pump housing and seals below the pump, gaskets also.
B. Inlet jacket off, inspected and put back together with new gaskets.
C. Exhaust manifold off, inspected, put back together with new gaskets.
D. Thermostat out, thermostat in, new thermostat and gaskets.
E. New spark plugs.
F. Fitted hose pipe onto water uptake and ran the engine, still overheating.
I've now got three stripped threads in the exhaust manifold which I'm in the process of repairing, gonna try to measure temperatures at various points with the engine running, but haven't done a compression test yet.
One thing I've not done is to fit an electric drill onto the driveshaft and put muffs on the water intake grills to simulate the engine running as I cant get my (three ) cordless drills to fit the socket I've taped to the top of the driveshaft.
Hope that explains where I'm at.
A despondent Cumbrian (Lancastrian really)!
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12 January 2022, 23:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Kent
Boat name: ever dry
Make: Elling KB350
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yamaha 15hp 2 stroke
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 632
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Whittle a short bit of wood down from square one end for socket & round and small enough to fit in the drill chuck on tother.
Thats quick & dirty
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13 January 2022, 16:33
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F115
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,926
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When you say its overheating... is the alarm going off?
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13 January 2022, 17:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Liverpool
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2015
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Haven't read your original post/thread......Why do you think its overheating?
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14 January 2022, 09:52
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Member
Country: UK - Isle of Man
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Nov 2019
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your welcome to give me a call
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11 March 2022, 17:19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: barrow-in-furness
Boat name: cap'n imo
Make: seapro
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard, petrol
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 56
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Originally Posted by matata
Haven't read your original post/thread......Why do you think its overheating?
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Hi, sorry Matata just got round to coming back onto the forum.
Basically when the engine is running, when/ if water is coming from the tell tail it is so hot it's almost steam. The overheat alarm goes off and I turn the engine off.
Been investigating the water pump just lately, managed to attach a power drill to the drive shaft, and a hose via muffs.
It seems one problem is a gasket below the water pump, which is leaking, I hadn't noticed this before but it's a generic part and isn't doing its job and the pump obviously isn't working at full capacity.
Really struggling to find the correct part, as the Yamaha Parts list doesn't cover my engine........
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11 March 2022, 17:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: barrow-in-furness
Boat name: cap'n imo
Make: seapro
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard, petrol
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Davie
If you canny get it sorted by March call me. Got a lot on my plate atm with windfarm jobs and a lorry load of new engines need fitted before I take on anymore + your boat needs water tested so need better weather. Ta
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Davie, can you please respond to my emails.
Ta, Paul.
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11 March 2022, 17:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: barrow-in-furness
Boat name: cap'n imo
Make: seapro
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard, petrol
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ollyit
I've rebuilt that exact engine last summer ,happy to lend an ear
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Hi Ollyit, just got back on the forum. Thanks for the help, I'm really struggling to get parts for my engine.
What is the serial number of your engine ? I cant seem to find the exact year of mine. The plate reads,
70BETO 6H3 L 474471.
From what I can understand 70 is the HP, B is inshore use, E is electric start, T is tilt and trim, no idea what the O denotes?
Don't know what the 6 is, or the H, 3 is the number of cylinders.
L is long shaft. That's where I'm at!
Cheers for your help.
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12 March 2022, 07:48
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: wormit
Boat name: lots of them
Make: various
Length: no boat
Engine: all types
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 633
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 57paulimo
Davie, can you please respond to my emails.
Ta, Paul.
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Just seen the pictures and that will never work. I will sent you my mobile number call me today before noon so I can get the correct parts away to you
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19 March 2022, 00:14
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Feb 2021
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Not sure if it helps. Had a similar issue with my 1984 Yamaha 80hp. Took the head off and pretty much all around the cylinders was caked in salt. My tel tale was super strong. But obviously only half the cylinder getting cooled.
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07 September 2022, 22:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: barrow-in-furness
Boat name: cap'n imo
Make: seapro
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard, petrol
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 56
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Hi, thanks for your help. I had issues with the engine overheating and alarm sounding. Every cover was removed, all waterways cleaned and new gasketsfitted everywhere, still the problem existed. Turns out it was a cracked waterpump housing!
Weeks of work to strip, check and reassemble! It's not the problem.
Paul
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