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26 December 2011, 13:24
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Menai Bridge
Boat name: Willgo
Make: Ferryboat
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yamaha Diesel
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3
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Yamaha ME421STI
I have a 8.2 metre Rib with a Yamaha ME421 STi inboard fitted. When the boat is loaded thee is a very significant "turbo" lag before the boat will plane. The engine can take five minutes to hit around 1900 RPM at which time the turbo kicks in and the boat takes off. Anyone had similar experiences?
I also need to obtain a service manual for same engine, any ideas?
Phil
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26 December 2011, 14:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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Sounds a heavy boat What revs do you get once it's going
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26 December 2011, 15:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Not sure
Make: ABC/Priddy
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 500 FPT
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 928
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Common problem, adjust the turbo boost screw underneath the pump Alan P
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26 December 2011, 20:58
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunoon
Boat name: Celtic Wanderer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 9m +
Engine: Volvo D6, Honda
MMSI: 235087784
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 205
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Also heard of problems with the turbo veins getting coated in soot/ oil residue and needing cleaned regular to let the turbo spin up quicker
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26 December 2011, 23:59
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: D Hollins
Make: pacific 38
Length: 10m +
Engine: Twin 212 hp Diesel
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 176
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Phil,
There is also a pneumatic baffle (gate) which blocks off the turbo pressure when too high. This can stick slightly. You will find it (and the actuator) between the inlet manifold and the turbo. You can easily check that it is functioning ok visually and also by moving it with your finger to ensure it is fully open.
Good luck.
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27 December 2011, 09:12
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Menai Bridge
Boat name: Willgo
Make: Ferryboat
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yamaha Diesel
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3
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Yamaha
This is fantastic feedback, I am a new member and this is all great advice. The boat revs at around 3800 RMP which returns around 43 knots unloaded and 38 with four divers and twin sets.
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27 December 2011, 09:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Coast
Boat name: TBC
Make: Delta
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2x Yamaha ME420s
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 61
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I have a manual if you can find a at of copying it! Can find any online
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27 December 2011, 10:25
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Member
Country: Australia
Town: Sydney
Boat name: Lunasea
Make: Ribtec 890SX
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yamaha ME 421STI x 2
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 475
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Originally Posted by Declanor
I have a manual if you can find a at of copying it! Can find any online
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I have been looking everywhere for a manual and can't find one online. If I was closer I would come around and photocopy it myself.
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27 December 2011, 12:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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Quote:
Originally Posted by philaustin
This is fantastic feedback, I am a new member and this is all great advice. The boat revs at around 3800 RMP which returns around 43 knots unloaded and 38 with four divers and twin sets.
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thats right on the button then, assuming it's always done it i'd have a look at Al's pump adjustment, i'm not sure the wastegate would bother the speed pickup but it would make the inlet manifold run hot, had that stick on the cummins engine we run
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27 December 2011, 13:38
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Greenock
Boat name: Tagalong
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 14
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If its the rib I think it is you have a lovely boat, I know the guy who had it built.
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27 December 2011, 15:48
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
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Quote:
Originally Posted by philaustin
he boat revs at around 3800 RMP which returns around 43 knots unloaded and 38 with four divers and twin sets.
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This sounds about right. As the guys say, there must be something up with the turbo.
You profile says Ferryboat. I reckon your boat is a very tasty looking Ferryman Boats wraparound open console. A good deal...
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27 December 2011, 15:50
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Marr
I know the guy who had it built.
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...and I know the guy who built it for him!
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29 December 2011, 11:08
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverkip
Boat name: Arann mor
Make: Redbay
Length: 10m +
Engine: inboard diesel
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 14
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Turbo lag
Phil, turbo sounds ok, that boat is stern heavy,try moving the weight forward, should make difference.
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29 December 2011, 12:22
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverkip
Make: Redbay 11m Cabin
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x Yamaha422Sti 275
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 567
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Phil,
I know the boat well and I have never know it to have any turbo lag, infact quite to opposite .
When you say turbo lag do you mean that she is slow to get up to the speed when the turbo comes in (around 1900 if I remember correctly) or she is slow once the turbo starts to wind up (after @1900rpm)?
I would assume that you have checked the usual suspects i.e dirty bottom, Fuel/Air filters etc?
I might just know a man that has a full set of w/shop manuals etc for that unit including the drives on soft copy
Cheers
Andy
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29 December 2011, 12:33
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Menai Bridge
Boat name: Willgo
Make: Ferryboat
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yamaha Diesel
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3
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WillGo
Roger,
It was William Macbeth, very nice chap and a cracking name.
I dive off it in Anglesey and it a fantastic boat. The hesitation is irritating and I need to get it fixed.
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29 December 2011, 17:37
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Greenock
Boat name: Tagalong
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by philaustin
Roger,
It was William Macbeth, very nice chap and a cracking name.
I dive off it in Anglesey and it a fantastic boat. The hesitation is irritating and I need to get it fixed.
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The very man. Agreed it is a superb boat. Been out in some nice weather on her. A good dry boat.
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04 May 2012, 15:19
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverkip
Boat name: Arann mor
Make: Redbay
Length: 10m +
Engine: inboard diesel
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Phil, how did you get on with the boat?. Drop me a line to let me know how you got on. Willie.
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