Yamaha vs selva 25hp

dejv · 16 May 2011, 20:05

Im interested in buying one of these either yamaha or selva 25hp 4stroke. what do you think about the selva outboards as they are cheaper than yamaha.

Attached please find the specifications of the outboards:

Selva: kingfish
Yamaha: F25DEL

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ashbypower · 16 May 2011, 20:12

Thats like comparing apples and pears... totally different league
Yammy every time

Turbodiesel · 16 May 2011, 20:53

Out of interest why Selva or Yamaha? What about all the other engines?. I would'nt put Selva in the same league!

most engines are cheaper than Yamaha!

astra · 16 May 2011, 22:07

Selva vs Hidea, maybe?

Ezgoing · 16 May 2011, 22:38

Is it not the case that some of the Selva engines are in fact yamaha? Or some other manafacturer of note?

dejv · 17 May 2011, 06:24

I was told that the selva are yamaha re branded. that's why i was considering one of those two.

so selva aren't that reliable ?

I've never heard of Hidea motors and I don't think that there is a local agent.

any recommendations for other manufacturers?
Honda,Mariner ... ?

dejv · 17 May 2011, 08:51

or tohatsu/mercury ?

any suggestion which are recommanded/and most reliable?

9D280 · 17 May 2011, 10:15

Before this turns into a messpit of rumour, I do remember reading a while ago that the 4- stroke Selvas were re- lidded Yams. Easy way to find out - any pics in the brochures with the lids off?

Also if Yam have recently introduced a new one, probably worth comparing the Selva with the old model.

Now, in days of yore I think Selva made their own? But that wasn't exactly yesterday!

dejv · 17 May 2011, 10:50

no pics on the brochure withouth the lid :/

9D280 · 17 May 2011, 11:39

Just had a quick trawl of the yam & Selva Websites.

I am swaying towards the "paint job" theory - tech numbers & pics are remarkably similar.....

parm · 17 May 2011, 12:35

i was always led to believe that Selva made the 2 strokes but the 4 strokes where re badged yamahas

samt · 17 May 2011, 20:53

Yam will hold its value much better.

dejv · 18 May 2011, 07:08

what about tohatsu ever heard of them?

9D280 · 18 May 2011, 08:55

Yep, the Marine branch of Nissan.

Quite highly regarded these days, and from what I gather good customer service too.

Nick Hearne · 18 May 2011, 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9D280

Yep, the Marine branch of Nissan.

Quite highly regarded these days, and from what I gather good customer service too.

I thought the only connection was that Tohatsu are rebadged as Nissan in US!
Not bad bits of kit ether way!

Poly · 18 May 2011, 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by dejv

what about tohatsu ever heard of them?

Dejv - my understanding is that Selva and Yamaha 4 strokes are the same under the skin. I think they are also have better market penetration in southern europe than the UK. Whether you will get the same support/warranty etc from Selva may be a different question? It is a little like the difference between a Skoda and an Audi. However whilst Skoda now have widespread market acceptance and reputation - Selva are still just entering the UK market - so do you want to be an early adopter for the Brand? Do you want to risk that when you sell it in 3 yrs time they are still largely an unknown quantity?

The following brands are all "mainstream" in the UK 4stroke outboard market:

Yamaha
Mercury/Mariner
Tohatsu
Honda
Suzuki

Do Etec go as small as 25 HP with their "modern" direct injection 2 stroke stuff? They would also be considered credible - but the traditional weight benefits of 2 stroke won't apply.

For each of those brands I would be comparing price and weight. There isn't really much between most of these in terms of reliability with new engines (and most will be offering 5 yr warranties). The key factor for many people will be who their local dealer is - so if a problem does develop they can get it fixed locally rather than travelling hundreds of miles to the approved service centre.

Rogue Wave · 18 May 2011, 10:04

:same lump. there was at one time a big difference in price in the UK but Yammie got Selva to raise the prices folowing on from Polwarts comments power to weight ratio wold be a decision factor for me als0 and smell and noise, sorry I mean music and Aroma :clap

dejv · 18 May 2011, 13:09

ic ic. will try and go have a look at the tohatsu this weekend.