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12 November 2004, 13:39
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
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Yammie
I am looking at getting our Camel back into fettle and I need to but a better engine on it than the Original Honda 130. I've been thinking about a couple of Engines but am being attracted to an older Yammie V6 200HP but in rather good nick .
I am told that they are a bit juicy anybody here ever run one if so just how expensive was it
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12 November 2004, 14:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Manchester - Abersoc
Boat name: MeMe
Make: SeaPro 595CC
Length: 6m +
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I can never.....
...........understand peoples fasination with fuel consumption and the cost attributed to the same, surely it's minimal for those who just potter about at the weekend. Of course for those in the business of pottering about all the time, mention no names (Jono Gorton, Ian - oopps) it's a factor. However, Mr Rogue, you're bloody loaded which, when coupled with being last at the bar and first out of the taxi means you have no room to question such a matter
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12 November 2004, 15:19
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
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I wish I was loaded! The richest bloke I know is David Manning! and he's got a F reg car
The main reason why I ask is that If I keep the boat it will be a Bareboat Charter Rib and I don't think it's fair to my customers to rent em a boat which will potentially cost em 200 to 250 pounds per day in Fuel. The fuel consumption goes up a lot when you get past 4 cylinders.
The other option is to put an Opti 150 on it
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12 November 2004, 15:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: SMH Rib / War Shot
Make: Ribtec / Scorpion
Length: 4m +
Engine: 100hp Yam/150hp opt
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Answered your own question?
Stuart,
A friend of mine chartered Atlantic Webs big Avon with the 200hp Yamaha and complained that it got through petrol like it was golig out of fashion. I think he did about £180 in a day. Big heavy boat though.
What does the Camel go like with a 150 opti?
What about standardising the fleet with them all having the same / similar engines - only one set of spare propellers / gearcases / starter motors etc?
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12 November 2004, 16:15
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
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Yeah Avon 8.4's go better with Cat 435's. I think the Camel is about 750 kilos lighter than Atlantic Webs (are they still in business?) a 20 on that Avon especially an old one is very underpowered.
similar engined boats definitely has an attraction,
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12 November 2004, 17:38
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Country: UK - England
Town: Falmouth
Boat name: Big Blue
Make: Halmatic Pacific 22
Length: 6m +
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Hi Stu
I've done quite a lot of work on Camels over the years and apart from beeing heavy for their size, the one thing that I've never been very impressed with is the 130. At the risk of beeing controversial, I think the performance is fairly flat and uninspiring . Even on slightly lighter boats it just does'nt feel like 130HP. I think youre going the right way with a Yamaha but I would probably look to put a 150 Four Stroke on it. Depending on the model variant, the Yamaha is at least 9 kilos lighter than the Honda and produces 20 hp more and in my experiance the fuel consumption is much better.
Cheers
Andy
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12 November 2004, 18:20
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Andy, I think few would disagree that Camel ribs are great - just not with a Honda 130 on them
Rogue...I'd go for the 150 or mebbe 200 Opti. I think I would be pissed off as a charterer if I had to do serious petrol in my day out and I think thats what the Yammie will be like. And anyway we know how much you like Opti's!
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12 November 2004, 18:42
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
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HI Andy Hi Alan
Yep I do love Opti's but I've always thought that Yammies were the best built engines and had the longest shelf life. Yeah the Camel is a good boat that was spoilt by a weak but reliable engine
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12 November 2004, 20:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: Lymington Yacht Have
Boat name: Various
Make: Cobra
Length: 10m +
Engine: F225 Yamahas
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Yammie 200 Pro Vs
Hi Stuart
Just a quickie. Had a couple of Yammie 200 Pro Vs in years gone bye.
They are serious "JUICE GUZZLERS" . Good motors but would not offer your punters "Value for money".
I personally have gone down the Four Stroke Route.
The servicing on four strokes is more crucial than two strokes but the smoothness and no oil application is welcoming. Have replaced our higher range of HPDI's with F225 Yamaha Four Strokes.
Had them in the past. They are brilliant. Regards to Brit
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12 November 2004, 21:17
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
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Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
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Thanks Buddy,
I remember you telling me the trouble you had with your HPDi's so they weren't an option. I was afraid the V6 would be prohibitive on consumption so guess we will look at another option.
Thanks for the input and I hope you are well
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12 November 2004, 21:39
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We had a yamaha 225 four stroke and at 35 kts in a slight sea we got 1.4 lts to the mile, thrashing about sking etc. 1.8 lt
Thats pretty accurate filled the tank then refueled next day devided by the miles on the gps.
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12 November 2004, 21:51
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Town: inn wiliks hed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
we will look at another option.
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av yew thort abowt orrs yew scrowte
gArf
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12 November 2004, 21:58
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
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Thank you for your kind suggestion, I think you will find that the Camel is a bit heavy to row.
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12 November 2004, 22:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
I think you will find that the Camel is a bit heavy to row.
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i downt meen yew gotta rowe de bastud fing yew twatt. i sed orrs. yew noe. laydees ov de fkin nite
ifn yew gett a cuppul ov bints onn de streat yew wownt av too wurry ow mucch petrul de yahama yewses
gArf
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12 November 2004, 22:05
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Country: UK - Wales
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That's a good idea, I guess I could yewse the monee to pay for the fuel I get at the Petrol Pimp. It puts a whole new meaning to the term four stroke!
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12 November 2004, 22:11
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exspyrd trayd membir
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
Petrol Pimp.
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dats noe waiy too tork bowt gordun browen(scoch git]. fuk mee yewl bee telin mee dat toby blare tels lyes nekst
gArf
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13 November 2004, 02:33
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Member
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Toby Blare only tells lyes when his Lips move!.
I think the laydees of the night is a good idea, do you think I should get a can of Easy Tart to get em going
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13 November 2004, 21:22
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Ladies of the night
Would require little maintenance compared to an outboard because they would receive regular servicing
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13 November 2004, 21:30
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
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Yes if it's succssful then Mercury could replace the Verado with the Bordello model.
This thread could get messy!
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13 November 2004, 21:36
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I am sure they would 'corner' the market.
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