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15 September 2015, 18:25
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Yanmar gold lined fuel filter
I needed one recently - RRP is £144! OK, maybe there's no gold lining - so I'm looking for a Silver Lining!
The filter (a spin on) is Yanmar part# 119798-55110 and it's made by DENSO, with a Denso part# 186100-6490
The filter is the same fit as a V8 Landcruiser block. I can get a Landcruiser filter that physically fits. I suppose I have two questions:
1. What micron filtration is likely to be provided by a generic/Toyota engine fuel filter? The bl@@dy Yanmar is 2 micron!
2. Do we know of a cheaper source of the (Denso) originals?
I have a photo somewhere - for what it's worth....
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15 September 2015, 18:33
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My filtery friend.
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15 September 2015, 19:00
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I've used Toyota landcruiser filters for years with no ill effects .
The filter is there to protect the pump from contaminates doesn't matter if it's on a car or a boat
Presumably you have a racor or similar pre filter which will catch most crud anyway leaving the engine filter purely as a final clean up filter
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15 September 2015, 19:37
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Originally Posted by beamishken
I've used Toyota landcruiser filters for years with no ill effects .
The filter is there to protect the pump from contaminates doesn't matter if it's on a car or a boat
Presumably you have a racor or similar pre filter which will catch most crud anyway leaving the engine filter purely as a final clean up filter
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Racor running 10 micron cartridges. I read something about protecting injectors from high pressure water and particles. I'm not completely sold on this 2 micron filter speil - I wonder is it a way to sell £144 filters every 250 hours
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15 September 2015, 19:56
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If it's good enough for Toyota it will be fine IMO if you have a good pre fuel filter/separator water drops out, as long as it's the correct size for fuel flow I would have thought.£144 sounds a pee take to me
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15 September 2015, 20:06
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£144 sounds a pee take to me
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144 is a Gross liberty...
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15 September 2015, 20:45
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Originally Posted by willk
I needed one recently - RRP is £144! OK, maybe there's no gold lining - so I'm looking for a Silver Lining!
The filter (a spin on) is Yanmar part# 119798-55110 and it's made by DENSO, with a Denso part# 186100-6490
The filter is the same fit as a V8 Landcruiser block. I can get a Landcruiser filter that physically fits. I suppose I have two questions:
1. What micron filtration is likely to be provided by a generic/Toyota engine fuel filter? The bl@@dy Yanmar is 2 micron!
2. Do we know of a cheaper source of the (Denso) originals?
I have a photo somewhere - for what it's worth....
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Most motor factors will be able to order Denso filters - I use Dingbro in Scotland
Cheers
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15 September 2015, 20:57
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At 2 microns, you must get petrol out of the other end and bitumen left in the tank.
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15 September 2015, 21:04
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Originally Posted by Andy Gee
Most motor factors will be able to order Denso filters - I use Dingbro in Scotland
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Thanks Andy - thing is, when my local lads run the Denso numbers, they draw a blank. I think Denso have supped with the devil and run off a private batch for Yanmar. I'll try your lads but the interwebs are full of men with the same quest as myself....
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15 September 2015, 21:09
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Originally Posted by Mollers
At 2 microns, you must get petrol out of the other end and bitumen left in the tank.
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You certainly get a nice slick of asphaltenes on the filter...
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15 September 2015, 21:14
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You certainly get a nice slick of asphaltenes on the filter...
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Spread 'em on the shed roof.
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15 September 2015, 21:17
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You may have seen this (and you may need the Garfish to translate for you) but see post #35. Perhaps some of that spare fuel will help ease the label a little.
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15 September 2015, 21:23
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Originally Posted by Erin
You may have seen this (and you may need the Garfish to translate for you) but see post #34. Perhaps some of that spare fuel will help ease the label a little.
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LOL - cheers. I had glanced over the thread, spotted the numbers but missed the photo. I have one in the shed - must skin it in the AM
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15 September 2015, 21:25
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I use 10 micron racors & only change the engine filters every 2nd service & never find much in the engine filters
But standard filters for cars are water separators as well as filters & the pump is the same for car or boat (give or take the odd tweek) so the filter has to be good enough to protect the pump from debris & on a car it's the only filter not a secondary & the hours run on the average boat between services is miniscule compared to the time on the average landcruiser
Buy the sub £10 filters from the factors & don't worry about it
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15 September 2015, 21:28
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Originally Posted by willk
Thanks Andy - thing is, when my local lads run the Denso numbers, they draw a blank. I think Denso have supped with the devil and run off a private batch for Yanmar. I'll try your lads but the interwebs are full of men with the same quest as myself....
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If I get a chance tomorrow I'll give them a call.
Sounds a bit like the £28 yamaha anodes ;-)
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15 September 2015, 21:28
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Quote:
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(and you may need the Garfish to translate for you)
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Originally Posted by Olaf
Har du en link til direktivet?
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Worryingly, not needing the Garfish. It appears that I can read Scowegian!
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15 September 2015, 21:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Gee
If I get a chance tomorrow I'll give them a call.
Sounds a bit like the £28 yamaha anodes ;-)
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Cheers Big Man. Must talk to you about those anodes too.....
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15 September 2015, 21:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamishken
...the hours run on the average boat between services is miniscule compared to the time on the average landcruiser
Buy the sub £10 filters from the factors & don't worry about it
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This would be my general inclination. Probably after warranty time expires...
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15 September 2015, 21:43
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Damned expensive aren't they? There's must be something very specific about the filter for 8LV lumps, and I assume it's the flow rate? Found the same genuine part on US and European sites, all roughly the same price.
http://www.yanmardeler.no/produkt/ya...r-119798-55110
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15 September 2015, 21:52
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Quote:
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...and I assume it's the flow rate?
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17 gallons an hour plus circulation? Pffft! I liked how you decided that £85 for a fuel filter wasn't such a bargain...
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