Yanmar or Volvo - Page 2

stuart hedges · 04 June 2003, 16:09

A phantom with twin 325 GM's has to be a reasonable reason

Jonny Fuller · 04 June 2003, 18:40

Maybe you'd like to share what you think you know about phantom 28's, or GM's for that matter!, nothing I suspect. you'll fit in well here on Fibnet!

jwalker · 04 June 2003, 20:03

Now, now JF. Just remember who used to come here and tell fibs.

And, M---s is on your site too.

And, your comparison between the Volvo and the Yanmar was not quite fair. The Kad300 gives only 272hp at the prop. (284.9 crankshaft). Why Volvo call it a 300 is anyones' guess, but that's another matter.

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Nope, Pete F is not the only one on here using a Volvo.

The Volvo also produces considerably more power below 2000rpm than the Yanmar because it runs a supercharger at lower revs and this crosses over to the turbocharger as the revs rise. I bet, although they may be reluctant to admit it, there are many Yanmar users out there who struggle in steep seas - open the throtle wide to get some response from the motor, it just begins to pick up by the time the crest arrives but so does the turbo. Off they shoot, at the wrong moment, just to have to throttle back and start all over again trying to get the bow to lift out of the trough. Tedious.

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Mike G, 6 tons does seem high, even with ballast. Did you not say, a wee while ago, you had a very bad trip into a head sea?

JW.

Pete7 · 04 June 2003, 20:29

JF, looking at the pics of your boat you need to get down to her a little more often and pump them bilges or she is surely going to sink with the water in there. Alternatively do as Pepper suggested glue some tubes on and she will sit level then.

More excellent free advice for you from your friends on Ribnet, what more could you ask for,

stuart hedges · 04 June 2003, 20:46

I was only joking jf, no need to go getting all protective about your tub.

Alan · 04 June 2003, 21:54

Blimey 'ol JF's going off on one a bit isn't he? Must be agraphobia after spending so much time largely alone on boatmad.com he gets scared out in the www world of rib.net

Pete7 · 04 June 2003, 22:03

Alan, you could ask him if his boat is a real one or was it splashed ? That should set the fireworks going nicely,

Pete

stuart hedges · 04 June 2003, 22:11

I know that your Phantom looks like a submarine in that pic.

www.phantom-submarine.crap

voovar · 04 June 2003, 22:34

don't know what you're all talking about, seems okay in the water to me..
it hasntgottubes remember

Jonny Fuller · 04 June 2003, 23:36

Very good ladies! I'll come back and have another look at Fibnet in a few days and see if any of you have learnt anything about boats, no hang on, let's make it a few years! LOL

crazyhorse · 05 June 2003, 01:06

Is that your boat JF??

Mike Garside · 05 June 2003, 07:31

Sure is, CH. Another coupla mins an' it will be fuller water!

Jonny Fuller · 05 June 2003, 07:59

Yeah, that's mine all right, looks like it weighs 6+ tons or something, naaa, don't be daft! ha ha ha ha.
I suppose if it did weigh 6+ tons I would need a couple of arm bands round it like you girls have! There you go, there is a good reason for having water wings on ya boat,- if it's ridiculously overweight! (not you CH) or just a crap hull design, in fact I like this analogy, you put water wings on someone/thing thats not a very good swimmer to "give them a helping hand with thier inadequacies", but you don't see them on duncan goodhew.LOL
Still, it's good to see you ladies out and about with ya stabilisers on

ya dads'll take em off when yall get bigger.

Jonny Fuller · 05 June 2003, 08:51

Quote:

Originally posted by jwalker
Now, now JF. Just remember who used to come here and tell fibs.

And, M---s is on your site too.

JW.

JW, True, but I was just having a laugh! as for M---s, where dya think I got him from!

Point taken with kad/yanmar thing, but the question was "which would you have?" I just said which and why.

and pete7, remember, "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" so all the splashes are a compliment to my excellent craft, so bollox 2 u

John Kennett · 05 June 2003, 09:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon Fuller
remember, "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"

Why, thank you Mr Boatmad.com! How are your boating forums?

Seriously though, it is interesting how people seem to get very set in their views and "I've got one, it works for me" turns into "it's the best"

It's more like religion than boating. Consider any of these:

RIB v sportsboat
power v sail
petrol v diesel
inboard v outboard
Yanmar v Yamaha v Volvo

Any of them could spark off a holy war

Fromwhat I have seen and read, the new Volvo engines to appear to be up there with the others. Despite having fought hard over the years to build a dismal reputation for wickedly expensive spares and shoddy service, it seems that Volvo may have finally turned a corner there too.

Whichever you choose it will still push your RIB, and the odds are it will be pretty reliable too. To a certain extent it may be worth inlfuencing your decision by the availability of a good local service engineer who you can get along with. If you do have a problem and can't get it fixed quickly it doesn't matter if you've got a Seagull or a Seatek!

John

Jonny Fuller · 05 June 2003, 09:27

Nice one JK! and of course you're right, that saying includes forums

boatmad's OK thanks, still very young, and as I'm sure you'll remember (although I do understand the diferences between 98 and now as far as pc ownership) things being slow to start. I gotta say, I still enjoy a good wind-up with your children LOL.

P.S. you forgot GM in ya list LOL

MarkWildey · 05 June 2003, 09:41

Jon F

What about a real engine => "Keith Black"

Probably never fitted in a RIB yet !

Cheers

Mark

Jonny Fuller · 05 June 2003, 09:46

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkWildey
Jon F,What about a real engine => "Keith Black"Mark

Now you're talking!!!!
you wouldn't want it in a rib tho', "drag racing engine" and "blow up stabilizers" in the same sentence doesn't realy work!

Jonny Fuller · 05 June 2003, 09:55

On a serious note, JK's note on being stuck on a point of view was a little unfair, I said "It depends on what you want from the boat" for example, if I were building a cruiser, or floating fortress like CH, I would go for the volvo, like the great man himself. much higher low down power, well proven combo from a company with a long term marine history, and the wiring doesn't look like is was ripped out of a nissan sunny! But if, as I said, top speed were important above all else, and I was in a position to make good the crap engine mounting system, there would only be one choice I could make( if I was buying mainstream stuff)--Yanmar amen.

voovar · 05 June 2003, 15:57

dont think the one in the pic is anyones phantom.. doesnt look quite right from here. did we find out if is it a real one?