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02 January 2014, 21:12
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Thought that would be the case, but any way of testing it?
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02 January 2014, 21:35
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you could try running the autowinterise sequence, it should display a message & sound an alarm. Failing that lifting the float out of the oil tank should bring a low oil alarm, but it's a bit of a faff to un-fasten the float housing from the tank.
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03 January 2014, 12:49
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If only you'd posted this 24 hours beforehand and I would have lent you my broken iCommand for the season..  It is stuck on temp and speed but would ring with alarms. Anyway..
The alarms should come up on the HDS, but they won't have the same detail as the iCommands, at least for everything. My old Ray kit (same as PD's) just said "engine alarm" and nothing more. The new Garmin gives a bit more detail but not a huge amount.
Incidentally, if you are thinking of going for an LMF over a true iCommand then would be no loss by going for a GMI10. The screen is just so much better.
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03 January 2014, 14:15
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Originally Posted by gotchiguy
If only you'd posted this 24 hours beforehand and I would have lent you my broken iCommand for the season.. It is stuck on temp and speed but would ring with alarms. Anyway..
The alarms should come up on the HDS, but they won't have the same detail as the iCommands, at least for everything. My old Ray kit (same as PD's) just said "engine alarm" and nothing more. The new Garmin gives a bit more detail but not a huge amount.
Incidentally, if you are thinking of going for an LMF over a true iCommand then would be no loss by going for a GMI10. The screen is just so much better. |
Thinking about it, the LMF with the specific BRP/Evinrude firmware does give detailed engine diagnostic messages. I don't know if the generic flavours would.
Gotchi, I think that you can hard reset the Icommand gauges using a combination of button presses & powering on the unit, have you tried that?
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03 January 2014, 14:18
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Have you tried speaking to the guys at Ribstuff, they often have spares like this with big discounts. Might not cost a lot for a proper gauge.
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03 January 2014, 14:22
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Have you tried speaking to the guys at Ribstuff, they often have spares like this with big discounts. Might not cost a lot for a proper gauge.
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£190 for a gauge.
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03 January 2014, 15:29
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£190 for a gauge.
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That's cheap enough, might be tempted meself as a spare 
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06 January 2014, 15:06
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Will my HDS put GPS out over the network?
My lowrance lgc 2000 has strange connectors for the old 3500c unit.
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06 January 2014, 23:09
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yes the HDS can be set to put out basic GPS sentences over the NMEA 2k. I set one up like that this summer. Whether the iCommands will accept this I cannot be sure but I imagine they would as they are happy to take it from my Garmin 17x puck.
The strange old connectors are probably NMEA 0183 proprietary connectors
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07 January 2014, 08:48
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Its a strange harness I believe, but I don't know where the join is.
here is a photo from a Google
http://www.davesmarineelectronics.co...ce/112-231.gif
It has 2 sockets on the end and a terminator so I think it must be a very basic network...
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07 January 2014, 15:37
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The picture shows old Lowrance style NMEA 2000 connectors...if you already have that on your boat then technically you may have an NMEA2000 network! It is terribly fun working out what all the wiring someone else's put into your boat does...
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07 January 2014, 15:41
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Well if my HDS puts out  then it won't be getting connected to anything, I will coil it all up and put it with all the other cables for another day...
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07 January 2014, 15:59
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Well if my HDS puts out then it won't be getting connected to anything, I will coil it all up and put it with all the other cables for another day... |
You will need to set up the HDS to put out  before it will work. I think I've read elsewhere that you may go for AIS too at some stage, if so, then that will give you backup GPS input into the HDS and the network should the HDS' inbuilt sensor fail.
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07 January 2014, 19:01
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I am sure I will get it setup, but at the moment the boat hasn't moved so been hard to test... and yeah I want to add AIS at some point.
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