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22 April 2004, 20:20
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advice needed - GPS linking to VHF
I seem to recall that this subject has already been discussed and believe it was Daniel who provided an answer. Can't find the post so here is my so called problem
I am having the IC601 linked up to the Raymarine GPS Plotter 435i. My guys tell me this afternoon that both units have been fitted and are in good working order. When linked however it seems that the power signal from the GPS is too weak to activate the radio (I believe this is what they meant).
Neither of the instruction manuals say anything on this subject so tomorrow will challenge both suppliers. However I am convinced that practical knowledge of some of you bright guys out there will provide a solution as I am sure many of you may have experienced the same problem.
Am I missing any vital components which link both units?
Andre
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22 April 2004, 20:44
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I think you are right, I seem to remember it was Daniel. I vaguely recollect an error in the manual regarding the cable colours..but I may be wrong. I get brain fade these days...what was it you were asking?
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23 April 2004, 10:23
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Are you Talking about the NMEA output from your plotter? I wired my Ic601 up last night to the NMEA output from the Raymarine C80 using the cable supplied by Raymarine, I think I used the Brown and Yellow from the plotter output and soldered it onto a red jack plug an the radio....only problem is I cant remember which wire went where on the jack plug, but it worked anyway.
I will check today and post it later.
Andy
Right, The Brown Wire from the Plotter went to the Outer of the Jack Plug
Yellow goes to the Inner.
HTH
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23 April 2004, 13:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Gee
Are you Talking about the NMEA output from your plotter? I wired my Ic601 up last night to the NMEA output from the Raymarine C80 using the cable supplied by Raymarine, I think I used the Brown and Yellow from the plotter output and soldered it onto a red jack plug an the radio....only problem is I cant remember which wire went where on the jack plug, but it worked anyway.
I will check today and post it later.
Andy
Right, The Brown Wire from the Plotter went to the Outer of the Jack Plug
Yellow goes to the Inner.
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Andy
yes that is what I had in mind the NMEA. I am told this is quite low the reading shows only 0.3 volt as max peak and should be 2.3 volt
I will pass on the info as to the wires and see what can be done. My next port of call is technical chap at raymarine
will advise of final results
Andre
Just spoken to tech support and it looks like the unit is faulty and will have to be returned to Raymarine
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23 April 2004, 16:44
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The Icom units, whilst excellent, are a little fussy about the individual data sentences within the NMEA data string.
Specifically they need a NMEA 0183 GGA data sentence for positional data. I tried to hook one up to a Lowrance unit that was only providing a NMEA 0183 GLL data sentence, and the two would not talk. (GGA and GGL are two different formats for the positional data).
Most modern GPS should output GGA data strings, though my slightly older unit would not.
Thread from sat nav news group here:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2BB61B18
HTH
David
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23 April 2004, 17:15
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Thanks for the input. Will have to sort it out when the ribs gets over here.
Will see for myself on Sunday what the problem is
Andre
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23 April 2004, 18:28
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is this the post
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24 April 2004, 13:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rads
The Icom units, whilst excellent, are a little fussy about the individual data sentences within the NMEA data string.
Specifically they need a NMEA 0183 GGA data sentence for positional data. I tried to hook one up to a Lowrance unit that was only providing a NMEA 0183 GLL data sentence, and the two would not talk. (GGA and GGL are two different formats for the positional data).
Most modern GPS should output GGA data strings, though my slightly older unit would not.
Thread from sat nav news group here:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2BB61B18
HTH
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and I had enough trouble trying to work out if Input really ment to the plotter or if it ment the input to the VHF
Andy
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24 April 2004, 19:43
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I have been a way in Ireland for a few days
Have you sorted this as yet and can I help in any way?
Kind regards
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24 April 2004, 20:47
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Hey Jon will come to Greece to do mine pleeeeeeeeeeease
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25 April 2004, 20:35
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Hey Jon will come to Greece to do mine pleeeeeeeeeeease
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You cover the Air fair and accom cost and I will be happy to come and sort yours for you.
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25 April 2004, 22:49
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26 April 2004, 18:53
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Andre it was me that offered some advise previously although it seams you may have now found the problem. If i can be of an help when the boat arrives give me a shout.
Dan
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26 April 2004, 18:58
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I also think this is the thread Andre was thinking of, although it only applies to Garmin GPS's and Icom VHF's.
http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread....ht=icom+garmin
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29 April 2004, 18:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Brooks
I have been a way in Ireland for a few days
Have you sorted this as yet and can I help in any way?
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yes we have sorted it out as the problem was the GPS, I took a third GPS over with me and that was worked very well with the IC601. Of the first two units , one just had a blank screen and with the other the NMEA signal to the VHF was just too weak . Just as well I could get a hold of a third unit in such a short time(the same model). As for the radio well the IC601 is very very good
The faulty ones will just be replaced
Jon pls give my regards to Matt
Andre
This is how the console looked during the tests. A depth sounder/fishfinder DS400X digital from Raymarine has been fitted today
the red battery isolator switch which you can just see at knee level has been replaced on both ribs cos that particular one is for single battery installation. Our ribs have twin batteries
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30 April 2004, 09:42
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New Boat
Hi Andre,
It is looking very good. I especially like the tube colour. Console layout looks very ergonomic. Will catch up with you when you get back home.
Best wishes
Kevin.
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