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23 February 2006, 13:22
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Country: UK - England
Town: Felixstowe
Boat name: WhaleOilBeefHooked
Make: Ribeye
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F80
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Advice Required - Which VHF?
I have a 5m Ribeye that I use for cruising & watersports.
Reviewing my safety equipment (and reading the posts on here) the next
stage is to install a VHF for listening to shipping (I live in Felixstowe), hailing the various marinas we tend to visit, and the all important "Just in case factor"
Looking to spend no more than £150
Would prefer a console mounted unit rather than hand-held.
What would you recommend? :
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23 February 2006, 13:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Boat name: TiLT 2
Make: Avon Adventure 620
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 135
MMSI: 235032203
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I would look at the Icom range.
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23 February 2006, 14:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Make: Ribcraft 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF175TG
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 929
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If you can I would stretch to the ICOM M421 which you can get for £199 from www.marine-super-store.com.
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23 February 2006, 14:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
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I reckon that a couple of RIBnet mambers might match that price - Stephen at Yachting Universe, maybe Steve the Boat, or that chap who sells bits for yachts and wants points to offset against his trade membership...
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23 February 2006, 19:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
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the fitting kit if you want to do a surface mount is around 20-22 quid for the icom 421,
199 seems the cheapest i found but at the show it was a nice bit cheaper there by around 10 or 20 quid
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23 February 2006, 22:13
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Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: True Blue
Make: Humber ocean pro 6.3
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 150 opti
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 456
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Navman 7100 £149, seems good to me & flush mounting kit is inc
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25 February 2006, 00:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: ramsgate
Boat name: Micki Dee Bee
Make: Ribcraft Seasafari
Length: 9m +
Engine: Twin 250hp Suzuki
MMSI: 235057235
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,622
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Before you buy anything, PBO (practical boat owner) have just reviewed every VHF on the market.
Well woth a read and its very in-depth and highlights faluts and issues if there are any.
It due out soon n the next issue.
Well worth a read prior to buying.
Hugh, we have never been cheap and am sure we wont be for a while but as they say "you get hat you pay for"
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25 February 2006, 12:49
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,596
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Originally Posted by Jon Brooks
...Well woth a read and its very in-depth and highlights faluts and issues if there are any...
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Ah, but do they say how long they will last before they become faulty?
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25 February 2006, 18:39
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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In most of the reviews I have seen the Raymarine and the Icom seem neck and neck.
I went for the Raymarine fixed unit and an Icom handheld to cover all options!!!
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25 February 2006, 18:46
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Member
Country: New Zealand
Town: Paihia
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: indoard yam 420 sti
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 383
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i like the icom its been good to me . think they are all much of a muchness now
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25 February 2006, 20:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Nr Faversham, Kent
Boat name: C Rider
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 80
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 513
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I can only give you advice of what not to get. -COBRA.
Pile of (American?) plastic junk <probably> made by underpaid sweat shop workers in some far away place for tuppence.
Handset -crap
Speaker -crap
DSC -crap
Transmit -ok
reception -not bad but keeps picking up DSC type interferance.
Display -crap.
Controls -double crap.
Overall opinion: An Excellent buy, 1x for sale. Very cheap.
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26 February 2006, 20:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: ramsgate
Boat name: Micki Dee Bee
Make: Ribcraft Seasafari
Length: 9m +
Engine: Twin 250hp Suzuki
MMSI: 235057235
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,622
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No one can say how long a radio will last before it breaks
but the review test all the freatures it is one of the best ones I have seen in a very long time.
Most reviews seem to pay lip service to the needs of the end user but this is a very extensive one.
Funny PBO did not rate the Cobra very high either lol
To quote the "we can not recomend this unit for DSC use"
I would have to say most are not neck and neck and this review will go a very long way to prove that.
There are some very good radio's on the market and there are also some not so good ones!
Regards
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26 February 2006, 23:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
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very happy with my icom 421, to me 200 quid was really good value over some of the units that are just a little big cheaper
you can tell the quality by looking at it, just like the garmin products
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Originally Posted by Jon Brooks
Before you buy anything, PBO (practical boat owner) have just reviewed every VHF on the market.
Well woth a read and its very in-depth and highlights faluts and issues if there are any.
It due out soon n the next issue.
Well worth a read prior to buying.
Hugh, we have never been cheap and am sure we wont be for a while but as they say "you get hat you pay for"
Regards
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27 February 2006, 08:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: emsworth
Boat name: the black stuff
Make: BALLISTIC
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2 x 200hp etec's
Join Date: Dec 2003
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icom all the way
The saying buy cheap buy twice does apply to vhf
Or buy cheap and you could die is another one I quite like
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27 February 2006, 08:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,951
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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
very happy with my icom 421
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Excellent, so your boat is on the water and you have used the radio then? or are you recommending it because it looked nice when you took it out of the box.
Pete
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27 February 2006, 14:42
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: fife
Make: Humber / searider
Length: 5m +
MMSI: ... - - - ...
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Well I hope the consensus that Icom are good bits of kit is correct…. As I have just had 2 delivered.
And yes as far as taking them out the box they seam nice bits of kit… and any problems with them???? It is nice to know Jon is about.
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27 February 2006, 18:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
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so are you to be known as pedantic pete from now on then?
i have used an icom 421 which is a friends radio and it is great, seems to do the right things and he is pleased as punch with it.
mine has not been on the water yet so my physical radio has not been used yet
the build quality looks good, and it looks like a very similar icom 421 to my friends icom 421!!!!! if you get my jist...
and when i took it out of the box it was lovely, looked nice, felt good, and we shared some special moments together
is that ok? or do i need to have used it for 5 years before sharing an opinion?
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Excellent, so your boat is on the water and you have used the radio then? or are you recommending it because it looked nice when you took it out of the box.
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27 February 2006, 21:09
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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My waterproof cobra ain't too bad...reception and transmission are pretty good-not tried it with DSC though (having an MMSI number would help).but I've had it replaced once under warranty.I suspect that was my fault though as my charging circuit had a mary and put 25 volts across it.
I've got it hooked up to a metz manta stainless whip which I'm quite impressed with-a great improvement over the Glomex one I had previously.
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27 February 2006, 23:23
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Cardiff
Make: Humber Destroyer 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp OB
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 499
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I went through 2 £99 XM's in a year replaced under waranty then gave up as I didn't trust them to be there when I needed it so stumped up the extra £100 for an ICOM 421 not had any problems so far.
Mike
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27 February 2006, 23:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
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Our old Icom lasted for about seven years before the microphone finally expired!
We replaced it with a 601 http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9395 and although it's suffered from slight condensation in the display, this doesn't hinder operation at all.
Our purchase was greatly influenced by the reliability of the old set, Icom's reputation in many market sectors, both within and outside the leisure marine marketplace, and their 3 year warranty. Add to this the helpfulness and general bonhomie from "Superradioman" aka Jon Brooks, and there isn't really another choice.
I wouldn't hesitate to purchase an Icom M421 if I were looking for a fixed DSC VHF with a budget of around £200, even though I've never used one!
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