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02 January 2013, 22:21
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: West Coast
Make: Various
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard
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Battery charger/Shore power
We are berthing in the water on a pontoon this winter, with a view to getting some use of the rib when we can.
The (twin Suzuki engined) rib is fitted with twin batteries and each battery supplies their own bilge pump in the well just inboard ofthe transom. The problem we have is that during prolonged wet weather - and there is no shortage of it!! Both batteries end up getting flattened after a few days, the rib starts filling up and I have to head to the marina, empty the water out, charge batteries etc.
We would like to fit a battery charger and/or shorepower to support the charger. Concerns are finding asuitable charger, longevity of the charger unit in a rib console environment and fire risk. Does anyone have any experience or comments?
All advice welcome...
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02 January 2013, 22:51
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorkshire
Boat name: Sold it !
Length: 3m +
Engine: Totallyhotsue 9.8 2S
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02 January 2013, 23:13
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Country: UK - England
Town: liverpool
Make: tohatsu6.1 one desig
Length: 6m +
Engine: mariner 125hp
Join Date: Jan 2012
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I have fitted sterling chargers onto live aboard narrowboats with large battery banks being lived on all winter and all the reports i get are good. Also sterling have very good aftersales, when i had a problem they always send me a new item without the B.S.
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02 January 2013, 23:57
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
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we have sterling in our cruiser which charges 3 batterys indepenantly & you can select wet cell dry cell gell etc not just a charger but also a battery conditioning unit very good! & built specifically for boats
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03 January 2013, 01:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: portsmouth
Boat name: my 2 boys
Make: Coastline 10m 12pax
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2x 300 Suzuki
Join Date: Aug 2011
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c-tek chargers I totally agree, fit and forget the best you can buy a bit pricey but without question the best
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03 January 2013, 07:56
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Country: UK - England
Boat name: ShaarkBait
Make: Zodiac 3.6 FR
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mariner 9.9 4-stroke
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Its not often that one gets impressed by a mundane device such as a battery charger, but I was impressed by the quality of my recent purchase of a Ctek charger although it was for a different application.
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03 January 2013, 08:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset
Boat name: Viper
Make: XS
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard 2x 100
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 221
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Shore power
I have a couple of small solar panels that I clip on top of the Windscreen rails, they keep a healthy trickle into the batteries and top them up after the pumps run. Won't help if the pumps stick on though they are too small to match the draw from continuous running.
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03 January 2013, 08:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: liverpool
Make: tohatsu6.1 one desig
Length: 6m +
Engine: mariner 125hp
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Has anyone ever tried them bellows type bilge pump you fit on your mooring line
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03 January 2013, 10:09
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
MMSI: ex directory!!
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 6,203
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Originally Posted by simon23
Has anyone ever tried them bellows type bilge pump you fit on your mooring line
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Yes being on a swing mooring on the west if Scotland I tried one years ago. Failed on two points as far as I was concerned, need to be a stern as that's where your well is but a rib to stable at stern so no action, if I moved it to now there was to long a feed from the bold he well to the pump. In all because our harbour is fairly sheltered there was not the movement nor was it sustained long enough to make it viable. Hope this helps.
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03 January 2013, 11:56
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Country: UK - England
Town: Exmouth, Devon
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simon23
Has anyone ever tried them bellows type bilge pump you fit on your mooring line
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Was going to suggest one of those as a simple alternative. Not my boat but one I go on regularly has used one this summer with generally good effect.
As jambo says, needs to be stern mounted, so a marina is fine.
Obviously it's critical that whoever moors up is aware the pump line needs to be tighter than the warp.
You could consider a cover to avoid water problem in first place?
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03 January 2013, 12:12
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Another vote for Cetek. I have one on BP & it keeps both batteries charged & conditioned. Fully waterproof & can be permanently wired in if required. Cost about 100 quid.
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03 January 2013, 12:47
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
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In the winter I take my two bats out in the garage with three phase charger. On mooring I leave it on one plus a solar panel for the trickle to replace the pump draw.
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03 January 2013, 13:19
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: West Coast
Make: Various
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 78
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Thanks for all of the messages so far, the Cetek units seam popular. Does anyone have shorepower on their rib?
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03 January 2013, 13:25
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Country: UK - England
Town: Salisbury
Boat name: Blue C
Make: XS 600
Length: 6m +
Engine: 125hp Opti
MMSI: 235082826/235909566
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jambo
In the winter I take my two bats out in the garage with three phase charger. On mooring I leave it on one plus a solar panel for the trickle to replace the pump draw.
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Sh1t what size batteries you charging? one hell of a charger that !!!
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03 January 2013, 14:45
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
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Absolutely huge!! Sorry spotted mistake should have read three stage not phase. Hell of a difference!!!!!!
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03 January 2013, 16:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: Salisbury
Boat name: Blue C
Make: XS 600
Length: 6m +
Engine: 125hp Opti
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jambo
Absolutely huge!! Sorry spotted mistake should have read three stage not phase. Hell of a difference!!!!!!
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03 January 2013, 16:21
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F115
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I have 3 of the cTek chargers, I use them for the argocats and Polaris, I've got a plug mounted on the dash so that you can just unplug the charger and go. Really easy to use
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03 January 2013, 17:32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: liverpool
Make: tohatsu6.1 one desig
Length: 6m +
Engine: mariner 125hp
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Is the sea level below the top of the sump if so put an extra drain above the sea level and live with water in 3/4 of the sump.don't know if its posible,but cheaper and more reliable than all this expensive kit !!!!!!
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03 January 2013, 17:35
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
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Quote:
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Is the sea level below the top of the sump if so put an extra drain above the sea level and live with water in 3/4 of the sump.don't know if its posible,but cheaper and more reliable than all this expensive kit !!!!!!
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So in basic terms you are suggesting self-drain from sump with outlet just above sea level therefore hoping to maintain a constant!
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03 January 2013, 17:37
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Quote:
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So in basic terms you are suggesting self-drain from sump woth outlet just above seaa level therefore hoping to maintain a constant!
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this is what I was told from zodiac - if on mooring leave back bungs open and it will reach its own level- I got fed up with wet feet ! do fitted bilge pump and carry jump start pack.
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