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20 June 2009, 10:54
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Largs
Boat name: Pinto
Make: Zodiac 4.7 Pro 9
Length: 4m +
Engine: Evenrude 40 e-TEC
MMSI: 235055258
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Battery isolator switches?
I’m looking for your comments on battery isolator switches. For our small open rib, is it a safety necessity, or just a potential failure mode?
We recently had a faulty electrics (intermittent) and failure to start fault, which turned out (via a replacement battery) to be the battery isolator switch mounted directly on the battery terminal.
This begs the question of the benefits/problems of such a switch, and should I bother with a replacement. Does everyone have one?
Thanks
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20 June 2009, 11:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Near Godalming
Boat name: AJA
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F150AETX
Join Date: May 2009
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I thought it was particularly useful if, for example, you had automatic bilge pumps and the RIB was not used for a while, it stops the drain on the battery.
I guess also fuel and batteries are not a brilliant combination in general terms, it's helpful to turn it all off.
One the other hand...... none of my other petrol toys (cars, lawnmowers, tractors etc) use battery isolators. In fact some are left on trickle charge.
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20 June 2009, 12:09
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Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
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I think it's a big safety feature. If you had an electrical fire, then by a simple turn of a switch you've isolated all of the power. Of course it is handy to stop drain in a boat whilst at anchor for the reason above or when storing your boat for weeks or months during layup periods.
Spend a little bit more and get a high quality product, there is some cheap stuff around that will give you nothing but greif.
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20 June 2009, 12:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Got them in one boat , but not in the other ( smaller) . Both rigged by manufacturer - down to personal choice in my view .
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20 June 2009, 12:36
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
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Would always strongly recommend one. I've used BEP switches on a number of boats nad never had any problems. The operating lever can be removed so no-one can turn the power on without it. A good additional anti-theft feature. Think they're about a tenner.
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20 June 2009, 15:32
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverness
Boat name: none
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I recommend the BEP/HELLA/Others type as well. Don't buy a cheap one as they fail quite rapidly.
The BEP/Hella type (they seem to be made in one place and sold under various names) are very good and I haven't had one fail yet.
I would be wary of any boat electrical system that had no means of isolation, batteries are powerful things if shorted.
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22 June 2009, 11:19
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
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I've only had one fail on me (slowly) after it was underwater for about 10 mins following a fairly conclusive swamping. Worked fine for about a day, then the corrosion set in - Starter died the following day, and by the third day hitting the PTT was enough for the radio to shut itself down on voltage drop .
If it's inside the console, I'll echo the other guys - a decent quality one should give years of service. If you are reallty stuck with a dead switch and have electronics you need to get home (and I include the engine management in that statement - not sure if the Etecs can run without a batt?) you could swap the two cables onto one of the terminal posts of the switch to get power to your toys / engine - just remember it will be a "live" hookup!)
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22 June 2009, 11:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
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Ooooo sparks!
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22 June 2009, 21:13
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Largs
Boat name: Pinto
Make: Zodiac 4.7 Pro 9
Length: 4m +
Engine: Evenrude 40 e-TEC
MMSI: 235055258
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Hi Guys and thanks for all your inputs. I takeyou point on getting a quality isolator but unfortunately I only have enough spare head space above the battery for the cheaper/keyless horizontal style ones. My curiosity got the better of me and I stripped and cleaned/sanded the old old one which now works again.
On the security front, my battery is in the padlocked seat, and if you get to it with a spanner you can easily remove it and put the cable back on. Didn't get any sparks when connecting up the new battery.
thanks again
John
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22 June 2009, 22:11
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9D280
not sure if the Etecs can run without a batt
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The 90s certainly can, they have a magneto. I was running mine today with the battery isolaters in the off postion.
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22 June 2009, 22:46
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Ireland , cork
Boat name: liberty
Make: lencraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: outboard yamaha 150
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
The 90s certainly can, they have a magneto. I was running mine today with the battery isolaters in the off postion.
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If you run with the battery isolator off the voltage regulator will no reference so voltage will be all over the place, A good way to blow your electronics on the boat
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