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16 May 2007, 10:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mudeford
Make: Humber Ocean Pro 5.3
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90ho Tohatsu
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 137
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battery size....
The manual for my Tohatsu 90 TLDI staes that i should use a 100 amp hour battery, but looking at the pysical size of one of these it's huge!! Do you think that i would get away with a 60 or 75 amp hour car battery, that way it would be a much better fit under the console....
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16 May 2007, 11:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bursledon
Boat name: Mustard
Make: Ribeye 785
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha 200/Merc 6
MMSI: 235068693
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If the engine manufacturer suggests a 100amp hour battery, that is what you need. They may even suggest something more for cold weather use. They probably suggest that based on the expected cold cranking current requirements.
I have a 90 Mercury and two 110 amp hour batteries.
Don't forget you could sit having a picnic, fishing or whatever with electronics running and you still want an easy start even with a partially discharged battery.
With a battery of lower capacity you could need to use heavier cables to maintain the voltage to the engine.
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16 May 2007, 12:07
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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A new 75A battery is going to perform better than a tired 100A - unless you make a habit of boating in sub zero conditions you should be ok. Let's face it you can start engines on a booster pack and they often have tiny batteries in them.
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16 May 2007, 14:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Boat name: TiLT 2
Make: Avon Adventure 620
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 135
MMSI: 235032203
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by psychopic
The manual for my Tohatsu 90 TLDI staes that i should use a 100 amp hour battery, but looking at the pysical size of one of these it's huge!! Do you think that i would get away with a 60 or 75 amp hour car battery, that way it would be a much better fit under the console....
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Have a look at a Squadron battery. We have just got one, 100amp/hr. It fits inside a jockey seat. Its more compact than a car battery:-
http://www.aquamarineuk.com/product_...oducts_id=1352
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16 May 2007, 15:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,500
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Originally Posted by Andy Moore
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They are made/imported by Engery Batteries in Corby Northants, they do mail order too ?
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16 May 2007, 20:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
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i have two 120/130 squadron batteries, were 70 quid each and i have very heavy battery cables as well, i never think it is worth scrimping on a battery as its the only way you can start some of these outboards and some need to turn a full revolution before they fire
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16 May 2007, 20:48
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Those batteries look very good value.
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16 May 2007, 22:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mudeford
Make: Humber Ocean Pro 5.3
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90ho Tohatsu
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 137
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those look nice....as they are spill proof etc do have to put them in a battery box if they are in a watertight locker?
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16 May 2007, 22:21
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Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by psychopic
those look nice....as they are spill proof etc do have to put them in a battery box if they are in a watertight locker?
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i put mine in battery boxs just to protect them from other stuff and ensure nothing can touch the terminals, if you have space it is a nice idea
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16 May 2007, 22:21
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Boat name: TiLT 2
Make: Avon Adventure 620
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 135
MMSI: 235032203
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psychopic
those look nice....as they are spill proof etc do have to put them in a battery box if they are in a watertight locker?
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Going by their website, the SFL range are sealed, maintenance free and leak-proof.
http://www.energy-batteries.com/
~Ours is not in a watertight locker, but I cannot vouch for it as it was a replacement battery as the original only lasted one season. However, I was assured that the original battery was from a duff batch.
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16 May 2007, 22:26
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
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What's the CCA rating of those Squadrons?
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16 May 2007, 22:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
What's the CCA rating of those Squadrons?
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Bear in mind that the postage to deepest darkest druid land on that thing could be many drinking vouchers.
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16 May 2007, 22:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Boat name: TiLT 2
Make: Avon Adventure 620
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 135
MMSI: 235032203
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
What's the CCA rating of those Squadrons?
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The one I have is rated at 600 CCA. However, the Mercury website states that I sould have 750 CCA for our OptiMax:
http://northamerica.mercurymarine.co.../optimax.php#6
Who knows?
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16 May 2007, 22:41
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Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Bear in mind that the postage to deepest darkest druid land on that thing could be many drinking vouchers.
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If you read the advert, you'll see that they won't ship them and only accept uplift. So it could cost a tad more.
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16 May 2007, 22:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
What's the CCA rating of those Squadrons?
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plenty....get ya sheckles out
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16 May 2007, 22:57
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Sheckles already spent on an Optima.
They say they're fully functional at all angles, even upside-down.
Had to have it.
I did think of a Numax CXV24MF: ( http://www.tayna.co.uk/catalog/586/0...es-page1.html),
This is physically small, a decent price and has the required CCA, but the optima seemed a better box of volts for the job.
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16 May 2007, 23:01
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwalker
If you read the advert, you'll see that they won't ship them and only accept uplift. So it could cost a tad more.
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Read? We've got you for that.
But, perhaps no more cost as Mr.DHDai has a boating aquaintance in Mr. Jardon whom lives only a couple of junctions away on the M3. What a thing it is to have friends.
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16 May 2007, 23:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Sheckles already spent on an Optima.
They say they're fully functional at all angles, even upside-down.
Had to have it.
I did think of a Numax CXV24MF: ( http://www.tayna.co.uk/catalog/586/0...es-page1.html),
This is physically small, a decent price and has the required CCA, but the optima seemed a better box of volts for the job.
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and there was me thinking you would be going down the scrappy for some second hand battery out of a mini or something!!
or down halfords for one of those 19quid watch batteries
if ya need me to pick up a few bits from down this way then just say
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16 May 2007, 23:11
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
...... Mr.DHDai has a boating aquaintance in Mr. Jardon...... What a thing it is to have friends.
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No friend of mine
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16 May 2007, 23:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
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Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
No friend of mine
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JACK BA$TARD!
We just need a friend to sort our a field for pikey club outing and we are set!!!
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