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11 September 2010, 15:41
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
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Bilge pump
Hi folks I have had a hellish year with bilge pumps!! My first after 6 months went down in June completely dead and kleft my boat deeep in water and dead battery. They the electronics company replaced the said pump a Rule mate 1100 and chaecked all the wiring and fuses and bats so all was wellthat was in mid july. I have this morning received a call from my mate who says the pump was stuck 'on' mid week he freed it but this morning my boat is full of water and the bat is dead. Not bad 2 in three months.
So I am looking to replace with a reliable set=up can those who have their ribs on moorings please advise their set-up. Also has anybodyelse experienced this problem. No wonder I was having trouble with my bats the pump has obviously been draining them.
J
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11 September 2010, 17:01
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Member
Country: Belgium
Town: Ghent Belgium
Boat name: Quickflash
Make: Scorpion 9,75 m
Length: 9m +
Engine: Volvo D6 370Hp
MMSI: 20519774700
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Jmabo, please also read my thread on disconnectable connectors. I have had the same problems with bilgepumps !
Looking at the response from my thread you can consider the following;
- a full cover to prevent water from getting into the boat
- increase the heighth of the mounting of the bilgepump so as all the muck won't get to the bilgepump
- make sure no water gets into your electrical connectors ( this is what happened to me)
- you sometimes get lucky with a bilge pump and it will last for years or you are unlucky and you "burn" three in one season.
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11 September 2010, 17:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes
Length: 8m +
Engine: 225 Opti
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 551
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after several Rule pumps i gave up (5 to be precise).
got a http://www.johnson-pump.com/jpmarine...timaBilge.html boat in water all summer, plenty of rain, 4 years and not let me down yet. its a great little pump and really does the job.
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11 September 2010, 18:50
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,726
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I had a manual Attwood V1250 (1250gph) fitted on my Humber which looked nowhere near new when I bought the boat and did ~ 3 years with me before the bearing on the motor went, it just got noisier and noisier and one day ground to a halt but I had about 3 months warning so I already had one on hand to replace it. Fitted another one and that was still in the boat a year or so later when I sold it and still working fine. Seawolf doesn't have a bilge pump because Roy reckoned it wasn't needed but if I find that I disagree, it will be another one the same - cheapish, low current draw (2.6 amps) and decent pumpage
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11 September 2010, 21:43
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
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Jambo - there has been an Attwood Sahara in mine since I bought her - not a problem in that time although I don't leave it on when she's not in the water. It has an internal float switch design so doesn't use power unless water is present to lift the switch. It has a fairly good strainer so shouldn't get clogged. It is easily opened to check and clean the impellor.
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12 September 2010, 15:31
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
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Cheers guys I had an Attwood 1250 before this Rule bandit and had no probs I think I will go back.
J
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13 September 2010, 10:56
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Country: UK - England
Town: east cowes
Make: academic
Length: no boat
Engine: fresh air
MMSI: N/A
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I got one of these from whale.
Works fine, low profile, so it can fit into awkward places.
Nick.
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13 September 2010, 11:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bursledon
Boat name: Mustard
Make: Ribeye 785
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha 200/Merc 6
MMSI: 235068693
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 618
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Well I must be the exception..
The last rib had a Rule automatic.
I fitted a new Rule auto on Mustard when I bought her and despite getting totally clogged on one occasion, still works perfectly after almost two years.
I often forget to turn it off and it has never drained the battery.
So it is Rule for me!
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15 September 2010, 18:31
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
MMSI: ex directory!!
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Just an update to all the guys that contacted me. I have now fitted a straight Rule 1100 with a 'plus' float switch. As we all thought it was the pulse impeller that was causing the damage, both damaged pumps on way back to Rule just in case there is a fault.So heres hoping all will be well
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15 September 2010, 18:44
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Not reliable
As a rule I don't buy Rule anymore I find Johnsohn and Saharas best. I also find th hydroswitch difficult to beat
http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=112053F you can get them in the UK
good luck
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15 September 2010, 19:17
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Member
Country: Germany
Make: RIBCRAFT 5.85
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150AETX Yamaha
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 86
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Got a Johnson for years without a single problem from the first day on.
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16 September 2010, 00:28
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
As a rule I don't buy Rule anymore
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I need to adopt that attitude. The only thing I like about Rule pumps is their compact size. The Attwood and Sahara pumps look a lot more robust and I'll be trying one of them when the next Rule pump fails - shouldn't be long now
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16 September 2010, 08:26
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Country: Ireland
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If someone can find an intact strainer/base for a Sahara 500, I like to buy it, or sell 'em a brand new never got wet pump...
A heffalump diver stomped on my Sahara, the pump is still fine but the strainer got squished
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16 September 2010, 11:10
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
If someone can find an intact strainer/base for a Sahara 500, I like to buy it, or sell 'em a brand new never got wet pump...
A heffalump diver stomped on my Sahara, the pump is still fine but the strainer got squished
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I think the shells are a bit of a weak fit IMO .. I've had them seperate of their own accord .. (not defending your heffalump) .. and that happened when it was in the underdeck too .. after which it was flood-omatic time .. yay!
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17 September 2010, 00:52
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
If someone can find an intact strainer/base for a Sahara 500, I like to buy it, or sell 'em a brand new never got wet pump...
A heffalump diver stomped on my Sahara, the pump is still fine but the strainer got squished
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Tim M is known to keep a supply of bilge pump spares.
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