Bilge pump in 4metre searider

[ollyit]

Is it worth having one of these in my boat - not having had it out it the water yet personally but Ive been offered one real cheap - £11 - what do reckon chaps?
thanks in advance

[Mark Halliday]

get it.
You may not need it now, but who knows.
It an auto?
Either way, if it had long wires and crock clips you could use it anywhere.

[ollyit]

Heres the spec

Yacht boat dinghy RIB Rule 360 bilge water pump new 12V Item number:
This is a new Rule 360 gallons per hour bilge pump.It is a 12v submersible pump with protected ignition.Ideal for any type of boat and when linked to your battery will keep your boat dry.Any further questions or you want a bigger pump please email

theyve got 10 available -
ebay link here



What do you reckon?

[Scary Des]

Ollyit
I wouldn’t fit it unless you are planning to leave your boat on a mooring on a regular basis, and even then think twice. They have the annoying habit of working and flattening the battery. But doing what mark suggests is good and at £11 how can you loose?
Des

[Mark Halliday]

OK
Thats a non-auto.
Rule 500 gph are £49.95 at Marine Superstore, Port Solent.

The 360 has got to be well worth £11 of anybody's money.
You could always add a float switch to make it an auto. £22.50 from the above.

Des
Very true, you would also need an on/off/auto switch.

Go for it and add crock clips or a fag lighter plug.

[Suzuki416]

I only have a 4m & they are to be recommended.
I've got a bilge pump glued to the inner hole with 2 wires going to a switch. These are on Croc clips to the battery & so will only work when connected (at sea) The switch is labeled & the vent pipe is easy to spot whilst helming...

[Nick Hearne]

Not bad http://www.towsure.com/ price £12.45 + delivery £4.95 as follows
New!
Rule® 360gph Bilge Pump, All Rule® Pumps are :
Totally submersible
Ignition protected, to all exsisting saftey standards, BIA, NMMA, ISO, EC regulations.
Water-cooled motors for long life.
Anti-airlock design.
Exclusive Rule® moisture tight seals.
Snap-lock stainer base for easy installation and removal.
Silent, vibration-free running.
No burn-out if run dry.
Stainless steel shafts.
P159
£12.45

or

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Performance at 1m in lt/hr 908
Performance at 2m in lt/hr 568
Volts 12
Amps 2,1
Fuse 2,5
Height in mm 90
Width in mm 60
Weight in kgs 0,3
Connection in mm 19


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Nick

[swginn]

I had a Rule 1100gph on a 4.9m (a bit overkill!!) and I didn't like the idea of an auto bilge draining the battery so I just kept it manual. Makes all the difference though no bailing out water at the mooring and no passengers moaning because their feet are wet. If you're by yourself in a rough sea, you just have to flick switch instead of hopping over benches to pull out the plug/ untie self draining trunk, etc. Well worth the £11, 360 gph is ideal for a 4m rib too.

[Richard B]

I use another boat that was kept in the water for a couple of seasons. The battery for the 360gph bilge pump kept going for about 3 months (albeit with a cover on, but there was a leaking stern tube to pump out). The pump wasn't a float switch type, it was one that pumps for 2 secs every 5 mins.

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by swginn

....If you're by yourself in a rough sea, you just have to flick switch instead of hopping over benches to pull out the plug/ untie self draining trunk, ....

in rough weather i think you should run with trunks open so that if you stuff it in a big wave you only have to worry about steering and the boat will drain on its own.

My previous boat had floats on the trunks to hold them up when the boats not moving, (not entirely successful but it stopped most of the water) this meant that I could keep the drains open all the time I was at sea. Des

[Tim M]

Is that free delivery on everything from compass24.com today???

[Richard B]

Des, a friend of mine got swamped last year whilst out with his 7 and 9 year old daughters. He didn't have the trunks down, and didn't dare let them leave their seats. He told me that the time taken for the boat to empty with just the electric bilge pump felt like a lifetime!

[Nick Hearne]

Originally Posted by timofengland

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Nick

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[ollyit]

You've all successfully scared in to buying one now! - so I did
£14.45p delivered - I'll post pics when I recieve it

[swginn]

in rough weather i think you should run with trunks open so that if you stuff it in a big wave you only have to worry about steering and the boat will drain on its own.

My previous boat had floats on the trunks to hold them up when the boats not moving, (not entirely successful but it stopped most of the water) this meant that I could keep the drains open all the time I was at sea. Des

I agree with you completely and will try your floats on the trunk idea on my new boat(good idea that!!, its always the simple things, eh?). The reason I used the bilge on my last boat is that the there was only a small plug/hole (stupid design flaw) to drain water and no trunks. It left in more water than it left out. The 1100gph bilge could empty the boat nearly four times as fast than with the plug out and the plug I had was not the original, so took a bit of fiddling about to get it back in.

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by swginn

....The reason I used the bilge on my last boat is that the there was only a small plug/hole (stupid design flaw) to drain water and no trunks. It left in more water than it left out. The 1100gph bilge could empty the boat nearly four times as fast .........

Sure you are right that if you can't do it any other way a pump is a good solution and I think the bigger the better. A lot of Avon have trunks or could have trunks so for ollyits boat a 360 gal pump is ideal as a secondary method of getting water out. Des

[Mark Halliday]

Another method of having "hands free" trunks is to pass a length of light shock cord through the trunk and secure to the top of the transom. When you get water on board it runs to the back and the weight streches the shock cord and out it goes. When empty the elastic pull it up again.

[Nick Hearne]

Originally Posted by Mark Halliday

Another method of having "hands free" trunks is to pass a length of light shock cord through the trunk and secure to the top of the transom. When you get water on board it runs to the back and the weight streches the shock cord and out it goes. When empty the elastic pull it up again.

What a bl**dy good idea!
Dose it realy work?
Nick

[Tim M]

My old Quicksilver SIB had a clever little value on it to drain the water. This worked much than the trunks I have on my RIB. Why not use valves on RIBS? You can buy them seperatly, but not big enough for RIB use.

[Richard B]

There's all sorts of devices... most of them have fundamental design probs. Biggest problem is getting sand/twigs/general debris caught in them. Did your QS SIB have one that's a membrane that seals against the gauze one way then releases when under pressure from the water within?