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Old 14 August 2011, 22:23   #1
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Buying Relay. Where?

I want to purchase a couple of replacement relays for my Evinrude DI and am having trouble finding any online in the UK. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?

Relay number is VF4-15F21-Z11 586224
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Andy, as far as i know they are an OEM part only, if you need one ASAP i have a test relay on my desk or we can get new ones in, they are £22.68 +vat ea
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Old 15 August 2011, 18:59   #3
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Thanks for that! I don't need one straight away, but would like one as a spare part. Just can't justify spending £27 on something that cost a quid to make, so will keep looking thanks.
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Old 16 August 2011, 19:37   #4
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A VF4 is a bog standard 5 pin switching relay, are the pins odd sizes or anything? If the terminals are 30, 85, 86, 87 and 87a then you'll find one under the dash of your car. I'm sure there'll be some anomaly to make it marine (and 10 time dearer) but a halfords one would do as a spare. Just watch that a lot of the auto ones are rated at 30A continuous, again as a spare it would probably do, but I'd be looking for a 40A (or higher if you can get one with the same terminal sizes.)

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Actually:

CDI Electronics*12V/40A Evinrude/Johnson Relay 586224

Hella Change Over Relay still 4 times the price it should be.

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CDI Electronics*12V/40A Evinrude/Johnson Relay 586224

Hella Change Over Relay still 4 times the price it should be.

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Thanks for your efforts, I actually added that one to my bookmarks at the weekend. I find it hard to justify the price however, it's still a rip off!
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It looks very like one of these http://documents.tycoelectronics.com...=DS&DocLang=EN - which doesn't have any special weatherproofing, temperature range or shouded covers.

So you could always plug in "12V 40A Car Relay (AR32K)" (£5.39 from Maplin - possibly cheaper from a motor factor) and save your current one as a spare ...
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It looks very like one of these http://documents.tycoelectronics.com...=DS&DocLang=EN - which doesn't have any special weatherproofing, temperature range or shouded covers.

So you could always plug in "12V 40A Car Relay (AR32K)" (£5.39 from Maplin - possibly cheaper from a motor factor) and save your current one as a spare ...
There's no resistor across the coil in that relay. What does the coild do? Suppressor to stop interferance?
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The coil pulls the switch contacts open/closed (I think you knew that,) the resistor "absorbs" the back EMF induced when the magnetic field collapses (when the relay switches off) and a diode version does exactly the same (but it must be wired up with reverse polarity, which doesn't really matter unless you're designing your own circuit.) Now that it's confirmed that we're on the right track, these are ISO relays, so any that match the specification will do.

Does yours have a resistor? If I remember from another thread it's for your PTT? If that's the case, the resistor is just to prevent long term damage to the switch contacts, as 200V or so will jump the gap causing premature failure, for a spare, I wouldn't even bother about the resistor.

TYCO Relay VF4,40/60A --- Pennine Components Has them even cheaper, 10 minutes in a scrapyard might get you them free!

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Yes mine have a resistor across the coil.

That's brilliant information Free. At that price I'll get a couple of them to replace both TT relays, I'll carry the original ones as spares just in case I have problems with the other relays which are a tad more important that trim and tilt.

Thanks very much.
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