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06 August 2015, 15:26
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charging from an outboard
anyone tell me if i am right.
having a nightmare getting an answer from Suzuki just bought a new Suzuki DF25 hp manual start.wanted to charge a battery from it for chart-plotter etc told by main agent just wire from red on rectifier and black to ground fair enough, but it only has one rectifier that supports the ECM i think it should have a separate rectifier for the charging circuit same as the electric start model does.
plus theres a blank plug waiting to connect to 6 pin
any one support that.
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06 August 2015, 17:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g
anyone tell me if i am right.
having a nightmare getting an answer from Suzuki just bought a new Suzuki DF25 hp manual start.wanted to charge a battery from it for chart-plotter etc told by main agent just wire from red on rectifier and black to ground fair enough, but it only has one rectifier that supports the ECM i think it should have a separate rectifier for the charging circuit same as the electric start model does.
plus theres a blank plug waiting to connect to 6 pin
any one support that.
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Jeff, download the Suzuki accessories catalogue & go to page 17, there is a battery charging kit listed for a DF25.
HTH
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06 August 2015, 19:27
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Hi Dave
Thanks for the reply done that &I got a service manual & i think I need the parts mentioned but talking to Suzuki originally they said there were no cables etc they also told Ron hale marine the same all I want is them to confirm I can fit the charging kit or not I am not an expert but I would think the rectifier supplying the ECM is stand alone and the alternator is split it certainly is on the electric start model but would the manual start be different if so why that's were I am uncertain just in case they have some special design on this model not needing the second rectifier.
Cheers jeff
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06 August 2015, 19:37
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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g
Hi Dave
Thanks for the reply done that &I got a service manual & i think I need the parts mentioned but talking to Suzuki originally they said there were no cables etc they also told Ron hale marine the same all I want is them to confirm I can fit the charging kit or not I am not an expert but I would think the rectifier supplying the ECM is stand alone and the alternator is split it certainly is on the electric start model but would the manual start be different if so why that's were I am uncertain just in case they have some special design on this model not needing the second rectifier.
Cheers jeff
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If its any consolation, I'm having my own trials & tribulations with Suzuki "Customer service" you get different answers from different people, mostly in the "No it can't be done" category
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06 August 2015, 19:49
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Well Dave your doing better than me sent two e-mails last week they just replied yesterday and dealing with it phoned six times spoke to a lass on the switch board that's it oh on one call I was directed to the AA who answer their calls when their busy says it all rang again today told them I think I need a charging kit she's gone away to find out no reply I wouldn't call it customer service at all only consolation they are bl--dy good motors
Cheers
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07 August 2015, 17:47
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Has anyone got a 2014-2015 DF25ASK Suzuki manual , charging a battery off of one rectifier or have upgraded to a second rectifier
Cheers Jeff
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10 August 2015, 20:31
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At last
Suzuki UK got back to me today it appears if you want to charge your battery you need a charging kit parts not clear yet as have to order from a dealer but for a 4,5,6hp its fly wheel coils and rectifier + connections & £115 for mine £88.77 so not sure if fly wheel & coils are part of that but that is the kit required.so happy days.shame though when you spend £3000 and ask to charge a battery a dealer doesn't pay attention to detail or more understand what their selling.
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25 August 2015, 07:19
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Working on designing a towable unit which will charge 12 volt batteries quick, for engines without a battery charging kit installed. Just drop it into the water, hook up two leads directly to the battery and go at trolling speed for about 20 minutes.
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25 August 2015, 07:45
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Quote:
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Working on designing a towable unit which will charge 12 volt batteries quick, for engines without a battery charging kit installed. Just drop it into the water, hook up two leads directly to the battery and go at trolling speed for about 20 minutes.
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Do you mean like this:
http://www.shop.solar-wind.co.uk/aca..._turbines.html
Discussed here:
http://www.practical-sailor.com/blog/-11090-1.html
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27 August 2015, 20:56
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Yes. Except it will be much less in terms of cost. They are relatively simply to make, the big problem is not having the proper thermo-sealer for the body. O-rings are ok but in this application I'm not sure.
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