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19 March 2013, 18:35
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Display condensation on Standard Horizon GX1600E
Hello all
I've just returned under warranty my second Standard Horizon GX1600E - a real time-consuming pain to remove due to the console clearances and wiring up the NMEA cables, re-programming all the MMSI numbers etc.
While my initial direct approaches to Standard Horizon where not that helpful, once I involved the retailer Gael Force Marine, things started to happen. Which is to be expected as I find Gael Force have very good customer service.
This second unit was also a new one, and fogged up as soon as it came out of the barn after installation - hadn't even been to sea. The first unit did so after about 3 months of light usage.
Both were mounted using the official (and expensive) SH surface mounting brackets, so the integrity of the units have not been compromised.
I wondered out of curiosity if anyone else had this problem with SH or any other radio makes/units, as I really don't want to have this happen a third time :o(
Pics of unit, location and fogging attached
Many thanks
Best wishes
Steve
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19 March 2013, 18:37
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Originally Posted by Copinsay
I wondered out of curiosity if anyone else had this problem with SH or any other radio makes ...
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Yep, got it with my Icom M411 ... they've told me to return it to them
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19 March 2013, 21:56
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I've seen this on all sorts. I'm not sure that I've seen a Garmin that didn't do it to some extent. My Raymarine plotter did it. However, my old NAVMAN 7100 which was a bargain basement VHF never did it in three years.
I got fed up and tried a bit of DIY on the Ray. To cut a long story short, I opened her up and stashed a silica bag in her innards. Worked a treat for 18 months.
FYI, Simrad are now selling their version of the 7100 for twice the price. Nice
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19 March 2013, 21:59
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Originally Posted by willk
To cut a long story short, I opened her up and stashed a silica bag in her innards. Worked a treat for 18 months.
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Now there's class
Dare I ask what happened after 18 months
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19 March 2013, 22:28
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Originally Posted by Copinsay
Now there's class
Dare I ask what happened after 18 months
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It began to fog on hot days, so I did it again
The second time I got a decent volume of silica beads, dried them properly and bagged them up hot. You'd have to ask the new owner how it lasted
In truth, the first time was a rank experiment that worked well with a small volume of potentially dry beads. Second go was serious!
Obviously you can kiss your warranty goodbye the second you crack the casing open. In reality, it was a crappy O-ring and poorly seated screws so easy to seal up again!
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19 March 2013, 22:31
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Now, for the Brave:
Biffer (of RIBnet fame) dries his gauge dials by introducing a double glazing demister stick THROUGH the back of the gauge (drills a hole!). Same deal as my idea but easier to renew/replace. Worth a thought!
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19 March 2013, 22:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Now, for the Brave:
Biffer (of RIBnet fame) dries his gauge dials by introducing a double glazing demister stick THROUGH the back of the gauge (drills a hole!). Same deal as my idea but easier to renew/replace. Worth a thought!
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You also can take the bulb out when not in use. okay its not as sofisticated as Biffer's option but does work!
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19 March 2013, 22:56
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And where would one pur-chase such a demister stick young Jedi?
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19 March 2013, 23:11
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Originally Posted by Copinsay
And where would one pur-chase such a demister stick young Jedi?
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Oh, I'm not rightly sure - but I think it's something like this, but cheaper. You should PM Biffer - it's good for him to be hassled
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20 March 2013, 00:44
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Had two Standard Horizon fixed VHFs and a chart plotter go that way.
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20 March 2013, 09:34
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Originally Posted by willk
Oh, I'm not rightly sure - but I think it's something like this, but cheaper. You should PM Biffer - it's good for him to be hassled
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was that a stick defficator !!
I thought there was enough defficant as it was
this is a sh--e thread
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20 March 2013, 13:08
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Thanks for all your comments folks - will PM Biffer.
Apples - thanks for your input - I wonder if I'm missing something in translation here...?
Cheers
Steve
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20 March 2013, 14:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Copinsay
Apples - thanks for your input - I wonder if I'm missing something in translation here...?
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Don't mind him - he'd been on the Sauce all night...
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20 March 2013, 14:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Copinsay
will PM Biffer.
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I think the only condensation he is concerned about at the moment is that on the outside of his cool drink in the South of France
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20 March 2013, 15:38
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20 March 2013, 19:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leapy
Yep, got it with my Icom M411 ... they've told me to return it to them
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I've only just bought an Icom M411 so hope this is not par for the course....
On the plus side Icom Service did send me a replacement belt clip for the hand held , completely free of charge inc. postage
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