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27 April 2012, 06:40
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Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
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Down to two
I've whittled it down to two choices for electronics. I mostly dive and do some close to shore (2-3 miles) fishing.
1. Got dealer pricing through a friend. Garmin 720s $1120, Airmar P79 in-hull $110, g2 Vision Card $224. Total $1454 (I don't know if I can can get the $200 map card rebate w/out a retail receipt)
2. Lowrance sale pricing, respected internet retailer: HDS-7 $803, LSS-1 Structure Scan $509, Airmar P79 $130, Navionics Platinum+ map card $171. Total including $300 rebate is $1313
Lowrance rebates and sale end in a matter of days. I need to decide! (and I'm one of those people that over analyzes everything!)
Which way should I go??
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27 April 2012, 06:47
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Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
MMSI: 235076954
Join Date: Sep 2004
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I know it is slightly subjective, but for me the quality of Lowrance displays would swing it in their favour
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27 April 2012, 07:23
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
MMSI: ex directory!!
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Yes I have to agree with Ian it's Lowrance for me.
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27 April 2012, 08:43
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
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Ah, but the Garmin is touch screen isn't it? I wouldn't go back from touch screen now.
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27 April 2012, 10:03
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset
Boat name: Viper
Make: XS
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard 2x 100
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I had exactly the same dilema and actually ended up with both.
So this won't help very much. The ease of use of the Garmin is superb with its touch screen BUT the Structure Scan is pretty impressive too.
I've not been using mine (Structure Scan) for very long but it performed pretty well on its first outing looking for an 11m fishing vessel sunk in 25m when searching on a sea running a moderate swell. (That said the Lowrance is refusing to power up so far after the winter break but I'm hoping that's just a bad connection)
The Garmin so far has been faultless. I'm running fuel flow sensors on that too which seem to be pretty accurate so far.
Oracle
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27 April 2012, 10:22
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
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I'm sure Garmin and others will come up with an answer to structure scan in time and could be added on after. As it is their fish finders are pretty good.
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27 April 2012, 14:30
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Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
Join Date: Aug 2011
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All good points.
Yes, Garmin is sporting a 7 inch touch screen while the Lowrance is only 6.4 inches non-touch. Both will take radar if I decide to go that route.
I've been leaning towards Lowrance Structure Scan seems cool for diving) but everyone says the quality & customer service of Garmin is better too (just not as much fun. They don't have a Sonic Hub available!)
It's Friday morning here in the states... I need to order by Saturday morning (for Lowrance: ~$100 sale savings & $300 rebate). I hate making these decisions!
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27 April 2012, 16:22
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Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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I do like the Lowrance Broadband radar. No frying your brains if it's mounted too low. Don't know if Garmin has an equivalent.
I'm used to the Lowrance menu system, as semi-intuitive as it is. That's a personal issue though. They both make good units. Not much help, sorry.
jky
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27 April 2012, 17:49
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Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
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And I was just thrown for another loop... Take the Garmin prices and another 25% off. I was so set on Lowrance.....
JKY, yep, from what I've seen & read, the Lowrance/Simrad Broadband Radar beats anything else out there for small radars.
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27 April 2012, 19:22
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Country: UK - England
Town: Salisbury
Boat name: Blue C
Make: XS 600
Length: 6m +
Engine: 125hp Opti
MMSI: 235082826/235909566
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian M
I know it is slightly subjective, but for me the quality of Lowrance displays would swing it in their favour
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What he said !!
Structure scan is awesome on our HDS 10
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27 April 2012, 21:32
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Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
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I was dead set on Lowrance this morning...now I realized I need to factor in 25% off the Garmin prices but add in 7.75% tax.
Looking at current cost:
Garmin 720s + Airmar P79 + g2 Vision card = $1176.20
Lowrance HDS-7 basemap + Airmar P79 + Navionics P+ Card + LSS-1 = $1294.31
Difference $118.11 Winner = Garmin
In the next year and half when I add radar:
Garmin 720s + GMR18HD + Airmar P79 + g2 Vision card = $1951.99
Lowrance HDS-7 basemap + 3G Radar + Navionics P+ Card + Airmar P79 + LSS-1 = $2217.42
Difference $265.43 Winner = Garmin
I'm an accountant...can't you tell?
Lowrance Pros: Structure Scan & Broadband Radar
Lowrance Cons: The $265 more expensive than Garmin. Smaller screen (6.4 inches versus 7). Non touch.
Garmin Pros: PRICE Screen size. Touch screen.
Garmin Cons: No structure scan. Old Radar technology.
Still talking my self into Lowrance....
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28 April 2012, 00:32
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Country: Denmark
Town: copenhagen
Make: Avon SR 4.7
Length: 4m +
Engine: E-tec 90hp
Join Date: Aug 2009
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I really like Lowrance. Have an old LMS350A.. still running after 14 years...
I have been loooking into the HDSx + structure scan as well. Looks very nice.. however i think the HDS7 is a bit small to fully utilize the structure scan. I ended up wanting the HDS8.. and then the G2 version came... it's much faster and smoother in the menus.. G1 seemes so slow... and now i didn't buy anything after all... stuck with my 14 year old system ;-)
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28 April 2012, 00:51
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Country: USA
Town: Seattle
Boat name: Water Dog
Make: Polaris
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 60hp
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The lowrance HDS is much better for finding dive sites. Really
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28 April 2012, 01:43
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Country: USA
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Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
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Engine: Yamaha 90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by njensen
However, i think the HDS7 is a bit small to fully utilize the structure scan.
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Hopefully, the 7 isn't too small!!! I couldn't justify the jump from $808 for the HDS-7 to $1445 for the HDS-8
Thanks all! Ordered HDS-7, LSS-1, and Airmar P79 (trying to limit things on the transom)
[if jky & captnjack approve, I must be doing ok!!!!]
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28 April 2012, 08:07
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset
Boat name: Viper
Make: XS
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard 2x 100
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My HDS7 is fine for size even on split screen. I use chart and Structure Scan split for a couple of runs to get lined up on the Waypoint the Structure Scan full screen to finally lay the shot line.
The detail is fine in both those set ups.
Oracle
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08 May 2012, 02:00
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Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
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One project ends and another begin:
New dash to be constructed out of aluminum (I think), flushmount HDS-7, Sonic Hub Dock and 2 speakers, then wire up the P79 in-hull & the LSS-1.
(and my phone put the picture upside down)
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