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13 October 2009, 20:25
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Country: UK - N Ireland
Town: Belfast
Boat name: Janie Tyler 2
Make: Osprey XR21
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Expensive systems failure please HELP
Need advice lads from the technical dept. i was out on saturday with all systems working fine when i noticed my garmin 340 fishfinder had gone to a plain white screen with the message sonar timeout at the bottom.
shortly afterwards my standard horizon 180 chart plotter lost its brightness and appeared to go into night mode.( you could still see the screen, just very dark)
then my humminbird vhf radio started making sounds like a machine gun!
my mate totally rewired the lot as there was a lot of dubious wiring behind the console but all problems still exist.
can anyone enlighten me as to what may be going on?
surely they cant all decide to pack in on the same day?
i feel that some one occurrence has caused them all to malfunction, am i right and what could it be?
its a bloody expensive day out if i have to send them all away to be examined.
please help
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13 October 2009, 20:36
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Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
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Only obvious thing I can think of is the regulator on the engine allowing over-voltage through to charge the battery, and hence suppling something too much over 12V to all the gear. Most gear should cope with up to about 14V, but any more than that could fry it.
Could be wrong though.
Nasher
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13 October 2009, 20:50
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Town: Belfast
Boat name: Janie Tyler 2
Make: Osprey XR21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
Only obvious thing I can think of is the regulator on the engine allowing over-voltage through to charge the battery, and hence suppling something too much over 12V to all the gear. Most gear should cope with up to about 14V, but any more than that could fry it.
Could be wrong though.
Nasher
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Thanks for the fast reply that's what I have been thinking but from a different source because this year I had two batteries installed with one of those auto change over switches fitted and was thinking that it might be doing it.
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13 October 2009, 21:01
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Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
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Can you remove the equipment and try it on a 12v power supply that you know is ok, a car battery or something?
It doesn't sound good though.
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13 October 2009, 21:15
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Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
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What voltages have you got with the motor off and on?
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14 October 2009, 18:47
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Town: Oldmeldrum
Boat name: S-Cape
Make: Sovereign 650
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If two batteries and a suspicion of over voltage I would check to make sure they are not in series at any position of the auto-switch, this would give a 24 volt system.
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14 October 2009, 23:10
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Garmin equipment is usually designed to function up to a system voltage of approx 35v. Check your Garmin user manual for your equipment.
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15 October 2009, 10:17
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Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
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Sounds very much like a poor connection on the power supply to the electronics. I'd double check every bit of wire and connection. It only takes a slightly loose or coroded bit to effect the current flow and dim things down.
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17 October 2009, 20:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth, UK
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Make: Quicksilver 3.8XSHD
Length: 3m +
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Sounds like not enough volts rather than too many, check for bad connections/corrosion.
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18 October 2009, 23:26
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Country: UK - N Ireland
Town: Belfast
Boat name: Janie Tyler 2
Make: Osprey XR21
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Engine: 90hp 4 stroke
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geoffs
Sounds like not enough volts rather than too many, check for bad connections/corrosion.
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Yes Geoff that was the problem we eventually got to the bottom of it the second battery wasn't getting charged this was due to the auto change over switch being faulty so its now going back to the marine engineer who fitted it hes going to replace it under warranty.
Thanks lads for all your help in this matter and im glad its not going to cost a fortune replacing faulty electronics.
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