Faria or Navman?

[Squirrel]

Having trawled through the Fuel Flow meter threads on the forum there seem to be two options, Floscan being too expensive.

Navman are cheap but get slated by some people for being unreliable and filling up with condensation. They could be the digsgruntled minority I guess.

Which leaves Faria in the middle ground, but I need convicing that its worth the extra hundred quid over the Navman.

Has anyoe had good experiences with either device? Is the Navman really that bad?

They all seem very expensive for something that is basically counting impeller revolutions!

[Mark Halliday]

Squirrel
I think that the Faria and Navman 2100 are the same thing. They look identical from the outside apart from the colour. Same layout, same functions, same buttons, same display same graphics, same sensor. I would guess that one is a badged version of the other.
My 2100 is fine, it took a bit of setting up, but is now within 0.25 litre each time I fill up, which is usually between 50 amd 75l.

[Squirrel]

Interesting, thanks for that. Can't get much sense out of our local supplier. Anyone know of a good online source for Navman?

[Swifty]

If you want to save a small fortune buy from the states.

I used this lot, http://www.gpsexplorer.com/Navman-Tr...100i-P348.aspx at $330 dollars (about £180) plus shipping, and tax. Fuel sender is another $115 (£64) They will ship to uk but they will do some checks on you first.

If you can afford it, go for the colour one. Nothing wrong with mono screens, but colour is clearer to read whilst driving.

Good luck.

PS my one does have a small ammount of condensation in it when its cold, otherwise cracking bit of kit. Dont forget the cartridges!!!

[ScottyDog]

Yes, I ordered a Navman fuel 3100 from JG Tech and changed my mind, instead going for the inbuilt capability on my 6600 Trackfish. It was very easy to deal with John, I have bought several items from him and can recommend his company without reservation.

I have had no trouble with either the 6600 or my 7200 misting up.

www.jgtech.com

[danny]

Squirrel.

I have some navman instruments. The only thing thats giving me al lot problems is the map 5500. She is not waterproof ! Always have condensation on the inside and that's giving me a real problem reading it at daytime. I have had two broken plastic windowscreen and eventualy replaced it with hardened glas.
The fuel managment is not correct also. The fuelflow is correct but the remaining fuel is always going balistic.

I would never buy likewise again.

Dan.

[Squirrel]

Hmmm, OK thanks for your responses. I don't see how hard it can be to make a simple device like this that works properly!

I've been quoted £183 locally (ex Vat) for the Fuel 2100. If the Faria really is the same then charging £238 seems a bit rich!

[Swifty]

Danny,
How easy was it to get apart?

I am thinking of opening it up and slipping a sachet of silica gel inside to soak up any moisture.

Tim.

[danny]

Originally Posted by Swifty

Danny,
How easy was it to get apart?

I am thinking of opening it up and slipping a sachet of silica gel inside to soak up any moisture.

Tim.

I believed I used a torx 6 or 7. remove about 10 screws at the back and it will open easy.
I've tried the silica gel too and it didn't help enough. I realy think that it isn't waterproof. I am realy precise at these kind of things. I have put in a hardened glas with special kit. Didn't work.
At days that I take a lot of water on the boat, this problem always appears.
She been back at the dealer now for two times and I have had her open for three times.
Gave up.

Dan.

[danny]

I am thinking of opening it up and slipping a sachet of silica gel inside to soak up any moisture.

You can put two or three tiny selfmade sachets inside. 2x3 cm.

Dan.

[Swifty]

Thanks for that. Will have a look see. If I can improve it I will let you know.

Tim.

[Mark Halliday]

Originally Posted by Squirrel

I've been quoted £183 locally (ex Vat) for the Fuel 2100. If the Faria really is the same then charging £238 seems a bit rich!

I think I paid £180 inc VAT last spring from Seateach in Emsworth. www.seateach.com. Basic web site, so give them a call.
Being in the CI you will not be charged the VAT will you?

[Squirrel]

Tax whats that?

Think I'll leave it for now. Wanted one because the boat is joint owned and we are trying to work out how to keep track of fuel costs. Prob just wing it for now. £180 is more than a full tank......at 49p per l sorry, I'll stop now.

[Rogue Wave]

At the Beginning of this thread somebody said Navman are cheep. We have just bought a Navman 3200 Diesel Management system (eat your heart out Johny Fuller!) and it cost way over 500 kwid!

It is however very clever and does some good stuff when connected to Navman GPS. We (as in Jasper) are fitting it this weekend and will soon know if its reliable. One of the interesting things is that if you whack in your destination to the chartplotter the fuel system tells you if you can make it or not before you start your Journey. Or dictates what speed you can do to complete the journey.

[DGR]

Does the Navman diesel kit talk to any plotters (i.e. just NMEA compatible) or only other Navman gear?

I want (need!!) a fuel computer for mine, and was thinking about going for a Floscan, but I'm struggling to find someone to sell me one - never mind find out about the price. Anyone know of any retailers that can supply them?

Dylan...

[Jelly]

Dylan
for the Floscan try Merlin http://www.merlinequipment.com/

http://www.merlinequipment.com/prod_...id=45&ind_id=1

I hope it helps, I want one also but have to fund the repairs to my leg after hitting a pot buoy and fixing the steering
Jelly

[DGR]

Jelly,

Thanks for that - I've e-mailed them for pricing info!!

How much damage did the pot buoy do to the leg?

Regards,

Dylan...