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18 September 2003, 17:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mayfair, London
Make: RibEye/Ferretti 881
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha 25/Twin MTU
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Flow Meter
I've never seen or used a flow meter but have heard they are useful to help run the engine economically.
I was wondering how easy they are to fit. Is this a simple DIY job, and does anyone know how it actually works? I guess some sort of sender has to be put in the fuel line, or does it mean taking the engine apart?
Also, it is necessary to get a Yamaha make, or will any make do?
Pehaps someone has a recommendation.
Many thanks
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18 September 2003, 17:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: Brixham, Devon
Boat name: FLY-BY/FLY-BY II
Make: Ribcraft/Avon
Length: 6m +
Engine: Honda 175/Yamaha 30
Join Date: Jan 2002
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I have got the Yamaha fuel computer fitted into my fuel line. Excellent bit of kit. I tend to use the "total gallons used" display rather than relying on my fuel guage. It's much more accurate. There are other make available and I remember that the yamaha unit is not cheap.
I think NAVMAN make a reasonably price unit that is easy to fit.
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18 September 2003, 17:55
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Country: UK - Isle of Man
Town: Peel, IOM
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A number of us have Floscan units.
We have the diesel version (which has, in addition, to measure the return of any unused fuel).
These cost £500 plus and I personally would not describe them as a simple, DIY fit. But then I am a plonker.
Once fitted, however, they are the dog's dangleys. A tank contents guage alongside one of these is near to useless. After running with mine now for over 4000 miles since April, it is accurate to within less than 3%. i.e. if it says I have used 100 litres, when refilling my tank, I find it will take more than 97 litres (but less than 100).
Thus when running on a journey you can very accurately decide if you have enough fuel to last you, and if it's "iffy" you can reduce your engine revs until the "rate of fuel being used NOW" needle, stays below the desired consumption rate.
I could not do the type of cruising I do without one.
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18 September 2003, 18:25
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Town: Hilton-of-Cadboll
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Once fitted, however, they are the dog's dangleys
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Amen to that Brian
Keith Hart
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18 September 2003, 19:38
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Make: FB 55
Length: 10m +
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Quote:
Originally posted by Brian
they are the dog's dangleys. After running with mine now for over 4000 miles since April, it is accurate to within less than 3%. you can very accurately decide if you have enough fuel to last you, and if it's "iffy" you can reduce your engine revs until the "rate of fuel being used NOW" needle, stays below the desired consumption rate.
I could not do the type of cruising I do without one.
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Hmmmm, Brian - SO..... what happened outside of Hornfleur/Deauville then, huh??
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18 September 2003, 21:02
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I ran out of fuel Charles (as well you know).
To be honest I still haven't bottomed out why.
I told you I was a plonker!
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19 September 2003, 07:22
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I told you I was a plonker!
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Maybe Brian, but at least you're a 'Round Britain' plonker
Anyway a floscan will not stop you running out of fuel but at least you know it's about to happen...
Keith (25 ltr) Hart
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19 September 2003, 08:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: St Mawes
Boat name: Magellan Zulu
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2 x Suzuki DF150
MMSI: 235094135
Join Date: Dec 2001
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Quote:
Originally posted by Brian
Once fitted, however, they are the dog's dangleys.
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Agreed, Brian.
After the last trip (that included Charles's Herm bash) my fuel usage was 2% out. I have since corrected that by a 2% calibration so it should be dead on come next fill.
However, I should be wrong and willl be very interested to see the result because, if Alan Priddy is right, the guage should now be over-reading. I have added the Soltron given to me to try out by Dominic "Depsol". Soltron is reputed to reduce fuel consumption.
P.S. RIBnet's Andy Cox is now an accredited agent for Soltron. Get your supplies from him, folks. He tells me that all his end of season layups will be using it and he has started a trial with a heavy haulage company down our way.
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19 September 2003, 10:13
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Make: FB 55
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That is terribly impressive Brian, Mike.
My Navman fuel monitoring system is more than 10/15% under. I just cannot seem to calibrate it properly - it is driving me nuts! I also do not think you can compare the Navman kit to the Floscan - i.e. floscan is of a much better quality and more reliable.
In saying that the Navman GPS works a treat when compared to my Raymarine plotter.
Approaching a bouy with the lat and long plumbed in to the Raymarine and Navman, the 'waypoint arrival' alarm sounded within 2 seconds of each other.
When are you and Di off to Nepal then Mike?
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19 September 2003, 11:14
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Country: UK - England
Town: St Mawes
Boat name: Magellan Zulu
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2 x Suzuki DF150
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Flying off to Turkey for a quick week's diving today, Charles. Then it's hard work for the whole of October getting trek fit. We head for Nepal on 5 Nov. Ribbin's over for this year for Di and me
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19 September 2003, 11:38
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Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
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Nice to see you back Mike. Keep us posted with an un-biased appraisal of the Soltron.
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20 September 2003, 20:12
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portchester, Hants.
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Navman Flow Unit
I have a fuel flow sender unit fitted & runs off my Navman GPS.
Charles I have now got mine calbrated to <2% accuracy. It took a little while to set up but now ok.
This unit is so easy to fit as well. Considering the costs of Flow scan units in my opinion Navman definately wins my vote.
If you want all the gory details send me a pm or E mail.
Cheers
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21 September 2003, 12:02
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Town: Bristol
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I use the Plastiomo / Navman system , my meter is not built into the gps fishfinder but is a stand alone gauge.
Works great. Fitted it in 20 mins and was very easy to do so.
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Martin
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11 October 2004, 11:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: London
Make: Larson
Length: 7m +
Engine: Volvo D4 260hp DP
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Can anyone tell me if this is the same Floscan that people are talking about, I understand it could read in US gallons, but it does seem a reasonable price for a 270hp engine and would show the consumption.
http://www.brokenlegdave.com/Manufac...oScan/5500.htm
Thanks
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11 October 2004, 12:04
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Town: Peel, IOM
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Yup.
Thats the chappie.
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11 October 2004, 12:09
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Country: UK - England
Town: London
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Engine: Volvo D4 260hp DP
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Thanks Brian, Do you know the cost of installing one of these and if I would have to sacrifice one of my dials to have it inserted (like speedo that is crap anyway)?
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