Globalmap 3500C-EP10-X107CDF

Simon B · 13 March 2007, 11:06

Finally got around to hooking up the Lowrance EP10 fuel flow transducer, looked simple. However, I believed it was compatible with our Globalmap 3500C, it isnt there was no NMEA2000 option in the second main menu.

Is this correct? We finally tried it with the Sonar X107CDF and it worked fine as a network set up using that.

JABS · 13 March 2007, 20:08

I hope there is because I am just fitting a Global Map and an x102! They are networked so I guess it doesn't matter if the GM3500 won't show fuel.

My boat is miles away so I have loaded the simulators for the GM and the x102 from the Lowrance web site and it looks to me as if there is a set up on the GM for NEMA 2000 and fuel. It is in the first menu, NMEA 2000.

I have fitted fuel flow and water speed.

I hope to set my kit up tomorrow, so may be more help then.

Good luck!

Simon B · 14 March 2007, 11:26

We cant see any NMEA2000 entries on any menu so I think this is a software difference. I'll load the upgrade and see if it appears. It would be better to have both devices able to see the network as you can then split the info to put different values on each screen so it isnt as cluttered.

There are a lot of varibles you can see for the fuel flow transducer, it looks a good bit of kit.

JABS · 15 March 2007, 08:55

Simon,

I installed the 3500 and the x102 yesterday. It all came together well. I didn't upgrade the software on either unit. Only thing I can't see to change is the units on the fuel flow system. It is currently in US GPH.

Going into the set up menu, the devices were visible. Is your network set up correctly? Have you got 120 ohm ternimators at each end? rather than the 60 ohm one that comes with the GPS?

If you want to call me, I can talk you through it. 07831 445599.

Tony.

Texel Tom · 15 March 2007, 21:02

You need to update the software version on the 3500 to 1.8.0 which was released in December to get the latest NMEA2K functionality.

The gallons / litres issue is changed globally under 'units of measure' in system set up.

One tip when configuring EP-10's voltage is critical. Make sure you have at least 13.4v at the head unit which will give you 12.4v on the network.

TT

Simon B · 12 April 2007, 08:41

Still couldnt get the update to upload;
Went to the browse MMC files option and all that was available to do was delete it not transfer it. It didnt look like it executed itself automatically. There however other different files on the card didnt know if this stopped it.

JABS · 13 April 2007, 08:36

I have exactly the same problem. I have contacted Silva UK for a resolution!
Drives me mad to have fule in US Gallons.

Also, I had a 'tee' piece fail due to water ingress. I really don't think they are absolutely waterproof!

Simon B · 13 April 2007, 11:34

Also had another possible fault; I power up the network and the unit and get the error message "GPS module not responding" start the engine, voltage increases and our position is aquired. This may stem from battery being completely discharged a while back and maybe not being fully charged even though its got enough grunt to start the motor.

JABS · 24 April 2007, 23:56

Just FYI, I talked with Silva and they said they would mail me the upgraded software. There is a problem sendimg it by email, the anti virus kills some of the files.....

I will see what I get.

Noy holding my breath and not impressed at all.

Simon B · 25 April 2007, 10:05

JABS,

Do let us know how you get on, I still havent managed to get our software updated. We've a few other problems with our network that need bottoming out.

fjarvis · 26 April 2007, 23:20

hi,
you should be able to d/l it from www.lowrance.com - i got mine there and my LMS-332C works great with the EP-10 now.
F

Quote:

Originally Posted by JABS

Just FYI, I talked with Silva and they said they would mail me the upgraded software. There is a problem sendimg it by email, the anti virus kills some of the files.....

I will see what I get.

Noy holding my breath and not impressed at all.

JABS · 30 April 2007, 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by fjarvis

hi,
you should be able to d/l it from www.lowrance.com - i got mine there and my LMS-332C works great with the EP-10 now.
F

Since the x102 doesn't have a memory card slot, and it has to be upgraded via the NMEA 2000 network, they don't put the upgrade on the web. It has to be obtained from Lowrance direct.

I am still waiting. I would have to say that the equipment is good but the support is absolutely terrible. Probably typical of a US company who cannot understand why we want our fuel measurements in anything other than USG.

Does anyone have the x102c upgrade??

Anyone else have this problem?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

JABS · 01 May 2007, 17:20

I have finally received from Silva, UK, two files which need to be present in the GPS to load accross to the x102c.

I can't try it until the weekend, but it looks more promising since I have files with the correct names.

PM me if you want the files.

Did you get the rest of the network working OK?

Tony

Simon B · 02 May 2007, 11:41

Tony,

Likewise not had time yet to re route cables through appropriate console gland. When I did put the memory card in to load the file it saw the executable file but did not allow upload all I could do was delete using "Browse MMC files" Does it self extract from MMC card automatically when you power it up with the card in the slot?

JABS · 02 May 2007, 15:22

As I understand it, you need two files. One is .bin and the other .luf. Insert the card, brose to them and bob's your. You execute the .luf file.

I have PM'd you the instructions.

I shall try it again on Saturday.

JABS · 07 May 2007, 09:00

Right. We got it all working.

My conclusions are:

The GPS needs the latest software before you can update the Sonar. It will not recognise a large sd card. I loaded the executable on a small card and it self loaded on power up, then turned off.

I had the Sonar software on another small card, browsed to it and there was an option to load it. The GPS told me it couldn't find the sonar, gave me the option to try anyway.

It all works just great now. Fuel in liters, but I can live with not having litres!

Some of the GPS functionality is also changed but I am now pleased with the set up!

PM me if you need more detail.

It doesn't help if the boiat is 80 miles away! If it is in the drive, you can try all this stuff more easily.

Good luck!

Tony

Simon B · 07 May 2007, 13:04

This is good,

I shall be trying exactly the same, will try a small card with files loaded onto root of card. Sounds promising.

JABS · 08 May 2007, 21:36

Simon,

Take your laptop with you, with all the files on it.

That way, you can load the GPS upgrade onto the SD card, load it onto the GPS, then delete it from the SD card and load the Sonar update.

That gives you options.

Good luck!

Tony