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Old 20 April 2010, 16:21   #1
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Help -Does EGNOS GPS now cover North Wales?

Reading my Navman 5500 it says that EGNOS will cover Europe from 2003, but do not turn this option on unless you are in a covered area or position will be wrong.

Standard GPS is accurate to 10m 95% of the time, with EGNOS it will be accurate to 5m 95% of the time.

As EGNOS is not on when in default settings, should i now turn this on as it is 2010?!
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Old 20 April 2010, 16:25   #2
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History lifted from Irish Pigeon Homing Union

WAAS, EGNOS, MSAS and GLONASS

The rest of the world were not going to let the Americans have it all their own way, and so other systems were developed around the world.

In answer to the US military, the Russian military established their GLONASS system (Global Orbiting Navigation Satellite System)

As an aid to navigation, non-military systems were also developed, which correct the errors of the military systems.

WAAS (Wide Area Augumentation System) is maintained by North America.

MSAS (Multifunctional Satellite Augumentation System) is developed by Japan and other Asiatic countries.

EGNOS European Geostationary Navigation Overlay Service is maintained by the European Commission, the European Space Agency and the European Organisation for the Safety of Air Navigation.

In principle, all systems are the same and even more astinishing, the systems are compatible to each other.

For obvious reasons, EGNOS is of more interest to us in this part of the world, and it entered its pre-operational phase in 2006. It is Europe's first activity in the field of global navigation satellite system, and is a precursor to Galileo, the full global navigation system under development in Europe. Consisting of three geostationary satellites and a network of ground stations, EGNOS achieves its aim by transmitting a signal containing information on the reliability and accuracy of the positioning signals sent out by the American GPS system and the Russian GLOSNASS system. It allows users in Europe and beyond to determine their position to within 2 metres.

By the way, with all the error correction satellites going up, there seemed little sense in the Americans continuing their 'Selective Ability' built in error, so as of 1st May, 2000, it was discontinued, and the GPS error now ranges around the 20 metre mark.

We are glad to report that the Irish Homing Union Differential GPS system in operation uses EGNOS, and we believe our calculations to be accurate to a metre of even less.
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Old 20 April 2010, 16:50   #3
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I'm sure I've got WAAS/EGNOS turned on on my plotter and the satelite signal strength bars show a little 'D' symbol to represent a differential fix when they are receiving corrected data from sats Nos 33 and 44.
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Old 20 April 2010, 17:17   #4
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Cheers, I'll turn mine on then! Might as well use it if it's twice as accurate or more!
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Another success for the Irish Pigeon Homing Union.

Mollers will be "trilled"
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Old 20 April 2010, 22:18   #6
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Another success for the Irish Pigeon Homing Union.

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Should have realised this thread would be bird feed for inuendo!
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Should have realised this thread would be bird feed for inuendo!
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Old 23 April 2010, 11:56   #8
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put my 5500 back to factory settings as id buggered it up using plotter etc.

Noticed that the EGNOS is on anyway. Fair enough. Manual was written 2003, unit sold 2008, obviously they had changed the software settings.
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