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17 February 2012, 14:42
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iPad Navigation
Does anybody use their ipad for real world navigation, i.e. have it mounted on the dash, plotting a route, using way points etc.
If so, what charts do you use, and what bracket do you use to hold it in place.
Finally, and most importantly, does it work?
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17 February 2012, 17:11
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Visibility is direct sun light is a big known issue with this.
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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17 February 2012, 18:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Visibility is direct sun light is a big known issue with this.
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Don't use a iPad but do use a iPhone. I have a O2 Audio fit wrist case that I modified to allow a charge lead to be used so as battery life would not be a problem retaining the waterproofing. Use navionics app and just speed to give gps info. I also have a nmea feed going to inmea from a gps through a wifi repeater but haven't used it in anger yet. This will give a full nmea feed and the iPhone gps as backup. I also have a dash mounted case but as stated before sun is a problem. Gs
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18 February 2012, 11:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MI3GTO
Don't use a iPad but do use a iPhone. I have a O2 Audio fit wrist case that I modified to allow a charge lead to be used so as battery life would not be a problem retaining the waterproofing. Use navionics app and just speed to give gps info. I also have a nmea feed going to inmea from a gps through a wifi repeater but haven't used it in anger yet. This will give a full nmea feed and the iPhone gps as backup. I also have a dash mounted case but as stated before sun is a problem. Gs
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Clearly running them (iphone / ipad) as a back up is the way forward. Thanks.
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20 February 2012, 20:48
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ipad / phones are not waterproof and if they get wet and stop working then you have to return them under warranty apple will cancel your warranty as they have a device fitted internal to them which can tell they have been wet in which case cancels the warranty
as i have just found out
they are obviously not made for our moist west coast weather!!
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20 February 2012, 23:10
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new case by scans truck coming out in next few weeks for iPad - 100% waterproof and floats iirc .
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21 February 2012, 08:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AMac
ipad / phones are not waterproof and if they get wet and stop working then you have to return them under warranty apple will cancel your warranty as they have a device fitted internal to them which can tell they have been wet in which case cancels the warranty
as i have just found out
they are obviously not made for our moist west coast weather!!
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Personally I wouldn't take my Iphone out on an open boat if there was the slightest chance of getting it wet let alone an Ipad - there are a number of options for keeping them dry - I saw one on TV that had foam balls on each corner and they kept throwing it on the ground and it survived perfectly.
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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21 February 2012, 09:10
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I've used my iPhone regularly with a standard soft waterproof pouch from OverBoard and it works OK. Keeps the water out and the touchscreen still works although visibility isn't brilliant.
I recently picked up a Magellan Toughcase on EBay. They're not compatible with iPhone 4 so are getting much cheaper now. I plan to keep my 3GS as backup boating phone/gps/plotter when I eventually upgrade and will probably stick a GiffGaff payg SIM in it.
Not much relevance to the OP though as it's nothing to do with an iPad
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21 February 2012, 12:15
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Assuming that the Overboard Ipad case works, and it is quite a claim from them if it doesn't, see Waterproof iPad Cases - Waterproof iPad Case - Waterproof Case | OverBoard then what is the best navigation software to run on it?
Does anybody have any experience on this?
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21 February 2012, 13:38
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I don't know if there any new iPad only apps, but Navionics is the best that I have seen so far.
On my iPhone I also have TidesPlan, Ship Finder, Motion-X GPS and the Imray Rules & Signals app.
I'm pretty sure the OverBoard case will keep your iPad dry but it won't give any protection from knocks. Not sure I'd be happy without a bit more protection.
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21 February 2012, 14:02
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I believe Memory Map have an i-app. 'droid version been "imminent" for over a year now....
In the meantime, I still have my waypoint file on my Trusty Garmin 12! (almost 24 hrs on a set of AAs too!)
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21 February 2012, 14:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9D280
I believe Memory Map have an i-app. 'droid version been "imminent" for over a year now....
In the meantime, I still have my waypoint file on my Trusty Garmin 12! (almost 24 hrs on a set of AAs too!)
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Yes they do I have used it for over a year and like both for planing and back up. I particularly like the fact that they have a suite nab, wind & tide. Suits my purpose and good price, zero!!
Sent from my iPhone using Rib.net
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21 February 2012, 19:33
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Suits my purpose and good price, zero!!
Sent from my iPhone using Rib.net[/QUOTE]
You lot like anything cheap
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21 February 2012, 22:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9D280
I believe Memory Map have an i-app. 'droid version been "imminent" for over a year now....
In the meantime, I still have my waypoint file on my Trusty Garmin 12! (almost 24 hrs on a set of AAs too!)
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Android version has been available for a while now. I use it on my phone and Asus Transformer tablet.
Have a search on the memory map forum for the link but if you struggle give me a shout and I will dig it out when I get home.
Mike
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21 February 2012, 22:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverfox
then what is the best navigation software to run on it?
Does anybody have any experience on this?
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"Dag Pike navigates with the iPhone" linky
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21 February 2012, 22:25
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Hmmmm I gave up looking 'coz all I ever saw was "soon".
I guess it's been longer than I thought! If you'll excuse me for a few mins I have an App to download.....
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21 February 2012, 22:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9D280
Hmmmm I gave up looking 'coz all I ever saw was "soon".
I guess it's been longer than I thought! If you'll excuse me for a few mins I have an App to download.....
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Here you go, just found the post it. I agree it was a long time coming, but can't complain now have access to all of uk chart portfolio on pc, phone and tablet for £40.
Also use it for OS maps for walking.
http://www.memory-map.co.uk/kb/quest...?questionid=87
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22 February 2012, 07:02
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Iphone
does anybody use thier iphone for AIS?
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22 February 2012, 07:14
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Yes, using Ship Finder. It relies on having a data connection though, so isn't a "proper" AIS app. It's interesting to have though.
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22 February 2012, 13:58
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I am using an ipad from time to time next to the garmin gps 620 plotter on board and have it in a waterproof / rather shockproof case on the console of my boat. The case is from aryca and the are waterproof / solid material with a twistlock access and a thin silicone film top so you can actually use it as well inthe casing. My iphone learned to swim in one of these cases (same brand), however havent tried the ipad like this ;-).
http://www.aryca.eu/en/protective-covers-for-tablets
Software : navionics is in my opinion far ahead of the competition when it comes to useability. I Tried imray as well but found it much more complicated. A plotter like a garmin 620 or 7something works simply better because the are designed for the circumstances and an iphone or ipad for that reason never will be an as good substitute.
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