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Old 26 March 2015, 13:28   #1
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Labels for switches?

Hi all, I want to label up some switches, isolators, gauges etc on my console (gel coat/fibreglass)
Any suggestions for a type of label or sticker that will last?
I have a dymo label printer with plastic tape but the glue is crap and the print fades
Custom engraved plastic panels are probably out of my price range...

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Old 26 March 2015, 13:33   #2
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Commercial vinyl shops can help you out.

For small projects, it is still a little pricey, but they usually offer the best solution.

For my SCUBA tanks, my MOD markings (70, OXYGEN 20), I did a white background with black lettering. Commercial vinyl sticks like crazy...I've had zero peeling. For my AL40 that I switched from a "70" to "OXYGEN 20", it actually peeled some of the paint off when I removed the vinyl...brand new tank that was only a few months old!
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Go to an engraver engraved glued with proper adhesives are the way to go
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Find a local supplier engraved plates, nameplates, control panels, warning labels, valve tags, industrial nameplates engraved, engraved signs, control panels, fire alarm zone diagrams, name tags
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I am sure I could sort you out make up labels daily

Have a look at CRS Controls | Heating & Ventilation Control Panel Manufacture & Installation Specialists. & go to the Facebook page

Just got a list of MMSI numbers for engraved labels from Charles my bother he must be doin them radio course things
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i bought a casio ez-label printer off e-bay £30 with exterior tape and just will re-print when/if they fade
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Hi all, I want to label up some switches, isolators, gauges etc on my console (gel coat/fibreglass)
Any suggestions for a type of label or sticker that will last?
I have a dymo label printer with plastic tape but the glue is crap and the print fades
Custom engraved plastic panels are probably out of my price range...

Thanks
Most Chandlers do packs of generic stickers to cover all of the standard functions.
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Most Chandlers do packs of generic stickers to cover all of the standard functions.
Put "boat switch labels" into google and select images, hundreds of them.
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Plenty of engravers will do them for a couple if quid each. Locally or via ebay / members in here.
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thankyou all for the replies. The engraved ones do look good and I was unaware of the availability of vinyl custom prints.

I have found a place online that seems almost too good to be true for UV-resistant waterproof-adhesive backed vinyl stickers (A5 size ~ £2 to your own design). It may prove too good to be true, but I will try it out first since it is so cheap. If it's any good I'll post the link, and if not, Ill try one of the sources above for engraved stuff or proper stickers.

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Bluesea has a kit with 40-60 labels i think.. In grey or black color


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thanks for all the ideas. I've seen the pre-printed ones and they are good inspiration for style. I should have been more specific in my original post as I'm after custom wording on several labels (MMSI number, specific locations of isolators etc) rather than just generic sticker packs.

I have found an online place that you can upload your own design and have a sheet of any size of adhesive backed vinyl printed out. This way I should be able to design a layout to match my console layout ( like your example panel Callum Stewart - thanks for the offer!) and just stick one or two big custom stickers to the console instead of lots of little ones. It's only £2 for an A5 sheet though so is probably too good to be true...we shall see in a week or so, in which case I'll go engraved surrounds like Nugent/Callum I think - they look very smart
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Aqaufax do the blue sea range with carling switches. They support this with a label pack and they are brilliant with good adhesive, waterproof and UV resistant. I use these on three boats. They are not the cheapest. The only downfall is even with 100 different labels in the pack they never seem to have all the one's you want.
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Ok here's the result from an online vinyl sticker house "Diginate.co.uk". Photos below.




I have no connection to them other than that I am a customer. Crucially for me they have no minimum order size, and gave you an online quote based on size of sticker.

I had a raggedy hole in my console where various old switch holes were now redundant, so I decided just to cover the whole lot with a sheet of perspex (A5 sheet from that popular online marketplace A5-size, 5mm thick for under a fiver). The switches are off-centre on purpose for various reasons, but the badly-bevelled edges are my poor router skills.
I debated roughing up the surface of the perspex first with some wet n dry, but didn't bother in the end.

I got an A4 sized sheet printed in 'clear' vinyl, and printed two versions of the sticker - one with a black background and transparent edges, and one transparent background. I prefer the black, but was worried it would not be opaque enough. It seems ok, and in hindsight I can use the clear one to protect the ink of the black one! Price for an A4 sheet including delivery and VAT was just over £16. Having 'clear' vinyl was few quid extra, but not much. My only concern is that the clear vinyl adhesive is 'permanent aqueous', rather than the 'permanent solvent-based glue used on the gloss and matt vinyl. We shall see about durability. The black ink rubbed off with a permanent marker when I was tracing around a cutout, so I suspect WD40 or petrol inadvertently contacting it might be an issue, but I am yet to test this. I might stick the 'clear' version over the top of the 'black' version which will also fix the bad font.

I used the free 'inkscape' software package to design the sticker. It took me a couple of hours to draw up, having had no prior experience and just using youtube video tutorials. It took a little working out how to draw white lines on a transparent background when the page in Inkscape was white, but the FAQ on the diginate website told me how (just make a coloured background layer and label it 'transparent', and tell them when you order that it should be transparent)

Diginate were very friendly. They had looked over the file and emailed me back to say they thought one of the fonts didn't look right, and sent me a picture of how it would have printed. Indeed the font on one label didn't match the others but was still legible - they could have easily just printed it and sent it to me, but I'm grateful they took the time for a real person to check it over even on a small order. I did correct the font, but in the end, one of the fonts was still not right despite me converting to paths as they suggested, but it looks ok (compare the switch label font on the actual sticker vs the preview print with both black and clear versions).

If I were to do it again, I would:
1) stick the label to the perspex sheet first, then cut out the holes for the switches. With the holes already in the perspex, aligning and sticking the sticker down was fiddly.
2)place mounting screw/bolt holes outside the sticker area if possible as if you don't take care tightening the screw down, the label gets caught and torn. (I re-used some old holes which was a mistake in hindsight as they were in the wrong place).
3) also ask the printhouse to send a preview of the fonts. They make it clear that fonts might be substituted if not converted to paths, but I had done this but still had issues with the font.


I'll try doing some labels to wrap over the gauges above the switchpanel, and then go around the rest of the boat thinking of everything I might ever want a label on - You could fit dozens of custom labels on an A4 sheet!

(n.b. the switches are Carling Contura V-series from Axon Components in various configurations. You can get these with factory-printed labels, but nothing that suited me.)
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