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14 March 2013, 21:46
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
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Length: 4m +
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But is the human eye more likely to see a flashing or constant light in darkness?.....
I'll get me coat again.....
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14 March 2013, 21:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: NW& wherever the boat is!
Boat name: depends on m'mood!
Make: Humbers/15-24m cats
Length: 6m +
Engine: etec130/big volvos
MMSI: many and various
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Well the surveyor has just got off the boat after our annual coding inspection on the 50ft power cat. Led nav lights and a clean sheet for No faults. So he was happy enough.
This--
Approvals USCG, IMO, RINA, MCA, BSH, GL, A16, CE
from an advert for aqua signal leds.
Personally I still have traditional bulbs on the rib but reckon an unapproved light that works is always better than an approved one that doesnt
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14 March 2013, 22:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: LONDON
Make: SR4/ZODIAC/3D
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30T/40T
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterM
But is the human eye more likely to see a flashing or constant light in darkness?.....
I'll get me coat again.....
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Pete,
totally right, but what will the authority see?
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14 March 2013, 23:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
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Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mister p
Pete,
totally right, but what will the authority see?
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Probably not past the font on the paper?
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15 March 2013, 11:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Various
Make: Ribeye's
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha 250 & 300
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterM
Probably not past the font on the paper?
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I had a recent MCA spot check last season and report that coding equipment was their only apparent concern (which we passed by the way !) We also do our best to conform to all requirements at all times. Solas. Col'regs etc.
With regard to the "authorities" view on compliance of equipment, It beggars belief that any inspector is likely to check compliance of literally 1000's of component items on any vessel or that any of us will check compliance of all components when purchasing that next vessel, so surely the sensible view would be that the 'best' effective quality equipment, kept in sound working order, is the primary consideration whilst not deliberately flouting any obvious regulation... ?
Recognise strongly held views exist, together with an element of 'pedantry' but didn't expect to unleash all of this, so .... "Happy Days" Guys
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15 March 2013, 11:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Ahh! but do they comply with the Colregs?
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Originally Posted by Kevin Redbond
Recognise strongly held views exist, together with an element of 'pedantry' but didn't expect to unleash all of this, so .... "Happy Days" Guys
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Oh! I knew what was coming as soon as I saw the thread title, hence my comment above. Just sat back & waited for it all to start kicking off
FWIW, I've got LEDs on BP.
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15 March 2013, 12:05
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Various
Make: Ribeye's
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha 250 & 300
Join Date: Nov 2010
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And good they are too I'm sure !
Consider myself just a little older, but a LOT wiser :-)
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17 March 2013, 13:18
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Key West, FL
Boat name: Spree, TLS
Make: 100' Swift, SR 7.4
Length: 6m +
Engine: 12V71TI, TAMD32
Join Date: Feb 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mister p
OK, let me say that all LED's are non-compliant.
I'll stand by that.
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Well, except for these guys.
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Seattle, Washington, 25 February 2010 – Dr. LED today announced that it’s White Polar Star 40, Red Polar Star 40, and Green Polar Star 40 after-market replacement LED light bulbs for the Aqua Signal series 40 navigation lights have been certified by a U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) accepted independent laboratory as compliantwith the USCG COLREG 1972 (International Maritime Organization, “IMO”) standards and verified to be in conformance with the navigation light regulations of ABYC A-16. These are the only after-market navigation replacement light bulbs that have received such certifications.
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17 March 2013, 13:20
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#29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Redbond
I had a recent MCA spot check last season and report that coding equipment was their only apparent concern (which we passed by the way !) We also do our best to conform to all requirements at all times. Solas. Col'regs etc.
With regard to the "authorities" view on compliance of equipment, It beggars belief that any inspector is likely to check compliance of literally 1000's of component items on any vessel or that any of us will check compliance of all components when purchasing that next vessel, so surely the sensible view would be that the 'best' effective quality equipment, kept in sound working order, is the primary consideration whilst not deliberately flouting any obvious regulation... ?
Recognise strongly held views exist, together with an element of 'pedantry' but didn't expect to unleash all of this, so .... "Happy Days" Guys
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Wow....
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