Mic hanger position

gotchiguy · 10 April 2013, 11:02

Any suggestions as to where to put the microphone hanger? I like the blue position because it is in the middle of driver and codriver but the wire might get in the way of the hatch just to its left? Red is stupid IMO but GD favours it. The orange is good but quite a way from the driver which could be annoying when single handing? Any other suggestions gratefully received.

SteveHall · 10 April 2013, 11:30

I have mine in the blue spot on a similar setup, and its annoying that it keeps getting caught in the hatch - but that's only annoying when you are in and out of the hatch.

Wouldn't the other places be annoying all of the time?

Downhilldai · 10 April 2013, 12:06

Lots of new toys on there

I'd go with the blue option. You could rig up some sort of clip/hook below the control box to hold the coiled cable away, when the hatch is in use.

Will you be fitting a grabrail below the VHF?

lakelandterrier · 10 April 2013, 12:44

I had similar dilemma with mine, and put the mic fairly central as I was concerned that left of the radio would be awkward to reach from the starbord helm position

However, the mike lead now hanges over the chartplotter screen and on my 5.3 it's not that far to reach in reality. I'm not sure I'd find the mike that low to be a convenient position.

Can you try different positions with some double sided tape?

redthunder · 10 April 2013, 13:11

Be careful with that VHF. I had mine there and the mike got snapped where it joins the radio hence have moved and got a Garmin 100i which has a permanent connection to the VHF.

Nos4r2 · 10 April 2013, 13:45

I'd be tempted to put it next to the plotter, higher up than the orange spot if it'll fit.

Is that a VHF extension speaker on there or half the stereo?

willk · 10 April 2013, 13:55

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

I'd be tempted to put it next to the plotter, higher up than the orange spot if it'll fit.

Me too. Let's face it, how often does the VHF get used, by anyone? No big issue for a lanky yoke like Gotchi to reach over. FYI, I had my mic in that position and it was never an issue.

gotchiguy · 10 April 2013, 14:55

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Originally Posted by Downhilldai

Will you be fitting a grabrail below the VHF?

Like this one? No, I don't think so. I mean, we did discuss it but putting one hand on the main grabrail and one behind the driver on his jockey top seems to work fine. Can always be added if it becomes an issue.

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Is that a VHF extension speaker on there or half the stereo?

VHF external speaker. What's the point of a stereo on a fast open boat...?

The old one was just below it, so pointing at the driver's knee. Hopefully the new set up will be much louder for the driver.

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Originally Posted by willk

Me too. Let's face it, how often does the VHF get used, by anyone? No big issue for a lanky yoke like Gotchi to reach over. FYI, I had my mic in that position and it was never an issue.

Agreed, not that often but when it is used (like for ribnet cruises) it is used a lot and generally by the driver on the move. The issue with the old system was that at the start of the day the Raymarine worked then whilst going along it suddenly died so when someone was trying to call you the handheld was off because you didn't realise the main radio had died

Could always get a relocation kit and have the plug come out on the horizontal bit up at the top then wind down to just below the trim tabs control

£37 though.

boristhebold · 10 April 2013, 17:02

Iwould suggest orange position but much higher up to the left of the plotter either mid point or nearer the top left edge. Out of the way but within easy reach when you need it.

PeterM · 10 April 2013, 18:01

Put the radio where the little white hatch is and the hatch where the radio is ...then put the mic just off the bottom right hand side of the plotter above the 'new' radio position...simples.......

gotchiguy · 10 April 2013, 18:10

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Originally Posted by PeterM

Put the radio where the little white hatch is and the hatch where the radio is ...then put the mic just off the bottom right hand side of the plotter above the 'new' radio position...simples.......

I think you're right....

Downhilldai · 10 April 2013, 18:11

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Originally Posted by gotchiguy

I think you're right....

Not another console change thread?

gotchiguy · 10 April 2013, 18:13

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Originally Posted by Downhilldai

Not another console change thread?

No, there's nothing can be done now.

Spent enough having all the rayrubbish holes filled in...

Just need to find a way to thread the sounder cable now.

Nos4r2 · 10 April 2013, 18:35

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Originally Posted by gotchiguy

VHF external speaker. What's the point of a stereo on a fast open boat...?

How else do you listen to the Shipping Forecast?

In all honesty, I wouldn't have fitted one either if it hadn't been insanely reduced in price.

sirib · 10 April 2013, 19:59

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Originally Posted by redthunder

Be careful with that VHF. I had mine there and the mike got snapped where it joins the radio hence have moved and got a Garmin 100i which has a permanent connection to the VHF.

Here is a is my set up. It works well, mic goes in the centre where the black dot is. My vote is for mic in the centre , no problems with mic cables, my grab handle helps.

Only problem is the Garmin 200i the mic connector has got broken twice, when it gets knocked. I am now trying to swop it for a Garmin 100.

That is the radio cover above the throttle not another radio.

gotchiguy · 10 April 2013, 20:06

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Originally Posted by sirib

Here is a is my set up. It works well, mic goes in the centre where the black dot is. My vote is for mic in the centre , no problems with mic cables, my grab handle helps.

Only problem is the Garmin 200i the mic connector has got broken twice, when it gets knocked. I am now trying to swop it for a Garmin 100.

That is the radio cover above the throttle not another radio.

Is that a 5012 plotter?

Interesting you've had two fail and redthunder has had his fail too however I notice on yours the connector appears to be plastic where on ours it is a metal ring? Perhaps this is an improvement garmin have made in response to the issue? We are currently thinking go for blue. Can always add a second hanger on the orange for times when there is a codriver or the white locker is being used? But we will learn from using it if that is going to be an issue I'm sure.

sirib · 10 April 2013, 20:46

Plotter is 5008 touch screen, it was the biggest I could fit in. Also have AIS600 inside the console. Plotter is great had a few problems when big waves off Lands End dumped on me and the plotter, the plotter had a fit thinking the water was my hand, and went off the scale, just when I needed it most. Eventually recalibrated the screen and now waves can break over it without any problems.

I will have a chat with Garmin about getting an i200 with a metal connector, I think that will solve the problems I have had.

gotchiguy · 10 April 2013, 20:57

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Originally Posted by sirib

Plotter is 5008 touch screen, it was the biggest I could fit in. Also have AIS600 inside the console. Plotter is great had a few problems when big waves off Lands End dumped on me and the plotter, the plotter had a fit thinking the water was my hand, and went off the scale, just when I needed it most. Eventually recalibrated the screen and now waves can break over it without any problems.

I will have a chat with Garmin about getting an i200 with a metal connector, I think that will solve the problems I have had.

Yes we have moved to an NMEA 2000 AIS too to make everything 2k. Thought the AIS600 was a little pricey so went with the digital yacht ait2000. Your plotter is really snug there, couldn't have gone even a half inch bigger!

When playing with the plotter on the bench a few months ago I found you can lock out the touch screen by pressing the on/off button which could be useful. What about in rain? Martini said his had only lost the plot once due to water so I'm not too worried. I'll go back to the boat on Friday and take a close up of the connector but I think I'm right in saying it's metal on ours where yours is plastic.

Nos4r2 · 10 April 2013, 21:05

I think when I go to AIS I'll just buy a Lowrance Link-8 (NMEA2000 compatible VHF with inbuilt AIS.)

It works out about cheaper than buying a decent NMEA2000 compatible AIS, plus ariel and co-ax.

Another big plus is no messing around under the deck routing more stuff. Now I've set up the network, not using the plug-n-playability of it would be a bit silly.

gotchiguy · 10 April 2013, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

I think when I go to AIS I'll just buy a Lowrance Link-8 (NMEA2000 compatible VHF with inbuilt AIS.)

It works out about cheaper than buying a decent NMEA2000 compatible AIS, plus ariel and co-ax.

Another big plus is no messing around under the deck routing more stuff. Now I've set up the network, not using the plug-n-playability of it would be a bit silly.

You could do that but personally I wouldn't.

1. It's only a receiver, which, to all intents and purposes is completely pointless.
2. If you don't want to run a new coax or dedicated antenna just use a splitter
3. The Garmin allows you to initiate DSC calls through the plotter, ie you can click on an AIS target and ring it up without touching the VHF.

Cheaper it may be but it doesn't offer half the functionality.

Swapping an 0183 transponder for a 2k one is a bit of an extravagance but it means that the only things going into the back of the 7012 will be power and NMEA2k