|
|
10 February 2012, 21:44
|
#1
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Newcastleton
Boat name: GLENNA
Make: Avon searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 25hp
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 72
|
MMSI Transfer
I have a VHF DSC and a chart plotter on my Shetland family four and was wandering if I can transfer them both onto my RIB along with the MMSI number. Or do I have to notify offcom and get a new MMSI number.
__________________
|
|
|
10 February 2012, 22:00
|
#2
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,910
|
The MMSI stays with the boat (Shetland). You can take the VHF but you'll almost certainly have to return it to the manufacturer or dealer to have the MMSI erased. If it's a NAVMAN then I can. You'll need a new MMSI for the RIB.
The plotter is not involved in the issue.
__________________
|
|
|
10 February 2012, 22:17
|
#3
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Newcastleton
Boat name: GLENNA
Make: Avon searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 25hp
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 72
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
The MMSI stays with the boat (Shetland). You can take the VHF but you'll almost certainly have to return it to the manufacturer or dealer to have the MMSI erased. If it's a NAVMAN then I can. You'll need a new MMSI for the RIB.
The plotter is not involved in the issue.
|
The vhf is an M Tech that I bought from Compas 24 so it looks like I wil have to return it to them to have the MMSI erased. I presume that they will install a new MMSI which I then have to register with offcom.
What sort of cost is involved in having the MMSI changed?
__________________
|
|
|
10 February 2012, 22:26
|
#4
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,910
|
Manufacturer clears the MMSI, you enter the new one that OFCOM give you.
If it's a cheap radio, I wouldn't bother. Between postage and the charge from them, it's stacked against you. I've heard costs from Free up to £40 for the job, plus your postage...
__________________
|
|
|
10 February 2012, 23:13
|
#5
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,021
|
I would just move the radio. You can go onto Ofcoms website and change the boat details...
__________________
---------------------------------------------------
Chris Stevens
Born fiddler
|
|
|
10 February 2012, 23:18
|
#6
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Newcastleton
Boat name: GLENNA
Make: Avon searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 25hp
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 72
|
When I bought it it cost me £150, it has DSC/Atis and the inland waterways setup for on the continant so it was not exactly cheap at the time of purchase. I don't know what it would cost to replace by todays prices but as we are both disabled and unable to work it has got to be cheaper to change the MMSI than to have to buy a new radio.
__________________
|
|
|
10 February 2012, 23:25
|
#7
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Newcastleton
Boat name: GLENNA
Make: Avon searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 25hp
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 72
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
I would just move the radio. You can go onto Ofcoms website and change the boat details...
|
Thanks Chris, I didn't realise that you could do that, If it works you have just saved me quite a bit of money that I could not really afford to lay out at the moment.
__________________
|
|
|
10 February 2012, 23:32
|
#8
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,632
|
What is the collective view on the mtech for waterproofness on an open rib? Wonder if a cheap icon/sh might be better long term.
__________________
|
|
|
10 February 2012, 23:38
|
#9
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,066
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
What is the collective view on the mtech for waterproofness on an open rib? Wonder if a cheap icon/sh might be better long term.
|
IMHO - open rib only option is icom or standard horizon - amazon had one for £140 ish - 411
__________________
SPRmarine / SPRtraining
RYA Training Courses & Safety Equipment Sales
|
|
|
10 February 2012, 23:58
|
#10
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Newcastleton
Boat name: GLENNA
Make: Avon searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 25hp
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 72
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPR
IMHO - open rib only option is icom or standard horizon - amazon had one for £140 ish - 411
|
As we will not be out in "rough" water and I am mounting the radio under the dashboard with a polycarbonate "shield" it will be well protected as our searider has a splash deck. The radio probably got more water on it on the shetland than it will on the avon.
__________________
|
|
|
11 February 2012, 09:53
|
#11
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 51ROB20
As we will not be out in "rough" water and I am mounting the radio under the dashboard with a polycarbonate "shield" it will be well protected as our searider has a splash deck. The radio probably got more water on it on the shetland than it will on the avon.
|
Stick the VHF in the RIB, do as Chris suggests re: Ofcom, if it doesn't work say nowt. If it dies, it dies. At least you'll get the rest of the value out of it.
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4: Don't feed the troll
|
|
|
11 February 2012, 11:04
|
#12
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,910
|
I'm (pleasantly) surprised to learn that you can change the boat details (it can't be done here). It makes a bit of a joke of the MMSI for a boat's life concept though
__________________
|
|
|
11 February 2012, 13:08
|
#13
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,066
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
I'm (pleasantly) surprised to learn that you can change the boat details (it can't be done here). It makes a bit of a joke of the MMSI for a boat's life concept though
|
you can't do it in the UK either afaik ! you can change registered keeper but not boat type.
great advice PD! so the OP press the red button and the RNLI start looking for a Shetland instead of RIB ... not the smartest of ideas....
S.
__________________
SPRmarine / SPRtraining
RYA Training Courses & Safety Equipment Sales
|
|
|
11 February 2012, 13:24
|
#14
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPR
you can't do it in the UK either afaik ! you can change registered keeper but not boat type.
great advice PD! so the OP press the red button and the RNLI start looking for a Shetland instead of RIB ... not the smartest of ideas....
S.
|
but at least they're looking in the right place for a small boat in distress, which is better than nothing. I'll tell you what, seeing as the VHF has got the wrong mmsi in it, leave it on shore. OR get the cavalry there, get rescued, sort out the bureaucracy later, how smart is that
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4: Don't feed the troll
|
|
|
11 February 2012, 18:16
|
#15
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,021
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPR
not the smartest of ideas....
S.
|
Bollocks !
Most people dont even bother registering their Radios. So as Pikey said if you have a small boat that is the same colour etc on fire in the middle of the briney then what are the SAR team going to do...... Ignore it becuase it "might" be a Shetland.
__________________
---------------------------------------------------
Chris Stevens
Born fiddler
|
|
|
11 February 2012, 18:26
|
#16
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,632
|
__________________
|
|
|
12 February 2012, 23:29
|
#17
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Newcastleton
Boat name: GLENNA
Make: Avon searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 25hp
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 72
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
I would just move the radio. You can go onto Ofcoms website and change the boat details...
|
Hi Chris, I have been trying for the past two days to get onto the OFCOM website but all that comes up is a message saying that the site is closed for maintenance. I will have to have another go at it during the week.
__________________
|
|
|
12 February 2012, 23:49
|
#18
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Newcastleton
Boat name: GLENNA
Make: Avon searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 25hp
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 72
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
|
Other people have found that the advice on this link works, so as soon as the OFCOM site opens again I will get a new MMSI number and follow the instructions. Nice one.
__________________
|
|
|
13 February 2012, 00:05
|
#19
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,021
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 51ROB20
Other people have found that the advice on this link works, so as soon as the OFCOM site opens again I will get a new MMSI number and follow the instructions. Nice one.
|
It works if you have a "nasa m-tech 35dsc" radio, however I dont think you do.
Worth a try but I doubt it will work.
__________________
---------------------------------------------------
Chris Stevens
Born fiddler
|
|
|
13 February 2012, 11:13
|
#20
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,078
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 51ROB20
but all that comes up is a message saying that the site is closed for maintenance.
|
Sometimes I get the same problem on here
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|