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30 October 2017, 11:30
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mounting vhf antenna upside down inside jockey console
to keep my quarter wavelength vhf antenna from being damaged I came up with the idea of mounting it inside the jockey console. Easiest way to do that and to keep connectors dry also in possible swamping started thinking to mount the antenna upside down. what do you think - does that make any sense?
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30 October 2017, 13:00
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Originally Posted by hyperlon
to keep my quarter wavelength vhf antenna from being damaged I came up with the idea of mounting it inside the jockey console. Easiest way to do that and to keep connectors dry also in possible swamping started thinking to mount the antenna upside down. what do you think - does that make any sense?
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So perceived wisdom says mount your VHF antenna as high as possible, vertical & away from any obstructions. You are going to mount yours low down, inside a box, upside down. What could possibly go wrong[emoji848]?
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30 October 2017, 13:32
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Originally Posted by hyperlon
to keep my quarter wavelength vhf antenna from being damaged I came up with the idea of mounting it inside the jockey console. Easiest way to do that and to keep connectors dry also in possible swamping started thinking to mount the antenna upside down. what do you think - does that make any sense?
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It will function, but the performance will be bad.
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30 October 2017, 14:06
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- does that make any sense?
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It makes no sense to me. In fact - I think it has to get second place for Worst Idea of the Month (and the end of the month is tomorrow!)
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30 October 2017, 14:08
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30 October 2017, 14:42
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Hate to think what the radio waves will be doing to your tackle too when you transmit - and I don't mean the fishing variety!
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30 October 2017, 18:05
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It makes no sense to me. In fact - I think it has to get second place for Worst Idea of the Month (and the end of the month is tomorrow!)
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And first place goes to...........
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30 October 2017, 18:30
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And first place goes to...........
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All I can say is that it cost £7
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30 October 2017, 18:33
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RYA do that/did that on their VSR ribs.
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30 October 2017, 18:36
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mounting it upside down won't make any difference, but not sure mounting inside the console is a good idea
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30 October 2017, 18:47
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It has to screw up the SWR
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30 October 2017, 18:49
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Must be a really crap idea to beat this one......
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31 October 2017, 01:14
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Don't. It won't perform well at all.
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01 November 2017, 08:01
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to keep my quarter wavelength vhf antenna from being damaged...
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Why is it going to become damaged?
Get a good quality whip antenna with some good flex in it.
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01 November 2017, 09:28
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RYA do that/did that on their VSR ribs.
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With a whip style or just a wee stubby?
I guess they spend a lot of time next to mainsheets etc that can get tangled in sticky up bits, and they also need relatively short range for their comms?
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01 November 2017, 14:30
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ok so looks like upside down or right way up does not make so much difference, radio waves wouldn't know the difference? this is for a coach boat, history shows anything that can break will break and height is an issue as need to load on double stack trailer with a dinghy on top. Sounds like RYA came to same idea so can't be so bad for this application
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01 November 2017, 14:31
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ok so looks like upside down or right way up does not make so much difference, radio waves wouldn't know the difference? this is for a coach boat, history shows anything that can break will break and height is an issue as need to load on double stack trailer with a dinghy on top. Sounds like RYA came to same idea so can't be so bad for this application
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You'd be better off with a handheld
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01 November 2017, 17:10
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I would think there are several reasons why a fixed set would be better for this application: decent loudspeaker, not having to keep batteries charged, can't lose it!
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01 November 2017, 18:07
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My wip antenna unscrewed so I could fit my cover so would do the same for the trailer, you could mount it up side down on the A frame to protect it if it bothers you more height , connections arnt an issue they are built for external installation, but my concern is if your that close to getting snagged on something if that's the problem I would be more worried about it grabbing something more substantial or your body
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03 November 2017, 20:41
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If I was outfitting another coach/teaching boat I'd either go with antenna upside down under the A-frame if there was one, or as mentioned upside down inside the console. Having said that were I used to work we gave up and just went to all handhelds in the end.
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