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02 June 2014, 12:24
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunblane
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzi 300
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 179
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PLB advice
We are thinking of buying a couple
What are best buys and comments on models available on the market?
Any advice welcome
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02 June 2014, 12:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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I've got the McMurdo fastfind 220 gps. small, fits in the plb pocket on my lifejacket, seems ok, never used it in anger so can't comment on performance etc.
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02 June 2014, 14:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,306
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
I've got the McMurdo fastfind 220 gps. small, fits in the plb pocket on my lifejacket, seems ok, never used it in anger so can't comment on performance etc.
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Me too...seems a decent bit of Kit,and like Pikey says a good size.
Mind you where you go out,with the Highland Jungle Drums...everyone knows when your out,and where going before you get there!
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03 June 2014, 12:29
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunblane
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzi 300
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 179
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Thanks to both . Will look into that model.
Hope never to need, but as I operate the boat solo a fair bit and in areas with patchy vhf and mob reception , prob sensible to have .
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03 June 2014, 12:57
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Member
Country: UK - N Ireland
Town: Rostrevor
Boat name: Ricochet
Make: Redbay
Length: 7m +
Engine: Twin F115 Yams
MMSI: 235083269
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 930
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Originally Posted by GeoffW
Hope never to need, but as I operate the boat solo a fair bit and in areas with patchy vhf and mob reception , prob sensible to have .
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With those parameters its a no brainer - I have an EPIRB and a PLB but then I am a whimp (and proud of it)
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03 June 2014, 22:39
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunblane
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzi 300
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 179
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Ta
We are rarely if ever far from land and an Epirb whilst ideal may be more than we need . But a sensible but long term . We will start with the plb for now
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03 June 2014, 22:50
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Country: UK - England
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Sep 2008
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worth looking at:
Does it float if dropped?
If it floats can is see satellites while floating?
Where will you put it while swimming? Do you have someplace to clip it on the inflated LJ. Can it see sats from there?
Replaceable battery or bin at 5 years?
Test modes? Some people comment on slow first lock if it needs to download the almanac from the sats to work out where it is. I've yet to see one with an external power source but that'd make sooooo much sense for test mode. Testing otherwise reduces battery life.
Robustness of aerial - will it survive a serious bashing
Ease of deployment given that you either are wearing gloves or have cold wet hands.
Remember to register it. Remember that the first thing they do is call the shore contact to see if its a false alarm. Make sure the shore contact will be aware if you are out, can confirm unlikely to be a false alarm if you aren't responding to a DSC call. No good making that your mobile number!
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04 June 2014, 01:47
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,726
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoffW
Thanks to both . Will look into that model.
Hope never to need, but as I operate the boat solo a fair bit and in areas with patchy vhf and mob reception , prob sensible to have .
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Same reason I have one. The only rescue might be a yellow Sea King. Mine's a Fastfind too, best bang for the buck when I bought it. Glad to say it has not been tested in anger!
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04 June 2014, 08:16
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
worth looking at:
Does it float if dropped?
If it floats can is see satellites while floating?
Where will you put it while swimming? Do you have someplace to clip it on the inflated LJ. Can it see sats from there?
Replaceable battery or bin at 5 years?
Test modes? Some people comment on slow first lock if it needs to download the almanac from the sats to work out where it is. I've yet to see one with an external power source but that'd make sooooo much sense for test mode. Testing otherwise reduces battery life.
Robustness of aerial - will it survive a serious bashing
Ease of deployment given that you either are wearing gloves or have cold wet hands.
Remember to register it. Remember that the first thing they do is call the shore contact to see if its a false alarm. Make sure the shore contact will be aware if you are out, can confirm unlikely to be a false alarm if you aren't responding to a DSC call. No good making that your mobile number!
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Good points
The Fast Find now comes with a neoprene flotation pouch iirc. Mine fits neatly in the PLB pocket on my lifejacket, I've fitted a lanyard to it that is attached to a ring inside the pocket, so the PLB is tethered to me.
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04 June 2014, 08:21
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Yarhoo
Make: Scorpion
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 150
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 418
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I have the new smartfind too, for the money, I think its a no brainer. As others have said fits neatly onto my LJ so have with me all the time.
Mustrib has done a lot of research into the topic/subject so would expect him to be along to discuss.
Anybody who doubts the worth of one, for coastal work, read his story in last months PB&R mag.
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04 June 2014, 15:51
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle
Boat name: Merlin
Make: RB4 Gemini 550
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90C
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,080
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I have been doing some research for an article about MEOSAR and how it will evolve PLB's. The MEO SAR Satellites will offer many advantages over the current LEOSAR and GEOSAR systems, perhaps the most interesting feature will be the ability to have a ground to beacon return link.
You trigger your MEOSAR PLB and will be able to receive return messaging from the Rescue Centre.
NOAA have a helpful diagram on their site to help explain.
Manufacturers are working on next generation PLB's, but they are a little way off at the moment, so if your in the market for a PLB, dont let that prevent you from buying a PLB now.
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04 June 2014, 16:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Make: Ballistic 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude 175hp ETEC
MMSI: 235 908 002
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 240
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There are some webinars that explain the COSPAS-SARSAT system, including the new features in MEOSAR on the McMurdo website.
More detail than you need as a PLB user, but interesting for us nerds to learn about
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