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08 November 2013, 10:45
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Member
Country: Other
Boat name: Ribs 8.6
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha V8
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Problem with wiring,electrics,everything.
Hello there I just bought Ribs 8.6 with Yamaha V8 350 HP engine,and everything is a mess.
Somebody took of dashboard with all wirings,conectors,there is no ignition key or lock,nothing. I got also no power to front of boat,i mean to dashboard..
And i am wondering,can i start this engine with out ignition key,i mean like hot wiring cables on engine? To see does engine works like it should be
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08 November 2013, 11:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Hysucat
Make: Hysucat
Length: 8m +
Engine: Twin Suzuki 175's
MMSI: 235102645
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Well that should be possible, all the key does is allow power to the engine and starter motor. But you will need a wiring diagram to check which ones. See if you can pop over to a dealer local to you.
You will need to buy some bits anyway to put it all back together.
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08 November 2013, 11:30
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Member
Country: Other
Boat name: Ribs 8.6
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha V8
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 11
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Thanx Trimix for reply!
I tried to go to local dealershop,but they say that cannot give such informations,only for licensed workshops..
Do you know maybe have we here on forum schematics for my boat??
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08 November 2013, 13:19
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Google is your friend!
Just make sure you are looking at the right vintage (year).
My guess is if it's an older one you could replace the key / choke etc with "off the shelf" items for many electrical / automotive parts store, but if it's a "fly by wire" it might get more interesting......
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08 November 2013, 13:39
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Redbay supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: onn de moov
Boat name: bote
Make: kevvin
Length: 4m +
Engine: jett dryve
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fibonacci
can i start this engine with out ignition key
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dat da vinchi nobbur noo wot hee woz onn abowt
hee mus av bin a yammerhar tek
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08 November 2013, 14:15
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Member
Country: Other
Boat name: Ribs 8.6
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha V8
Join Date: Nov 2013
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It is fly by wire,but i think it must start somehow without component like original ignition lock or dashboard panel..
wilifish,you like to drink?
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08 November 2013, 15:01
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Member
Country: Other
Boat name: Ribs 8.6
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha V8
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 11
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Wilifish,do you have schematics that you could send me on e-mail? I try coneccted this wires,but nothing happened,i got no power on either of those wires..
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08 November 2013, 15:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Norfolk/Suffolk Borders
Make: no boat
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 885
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fibonacci
It is fly by wire,but i think it must start somehow without component like original ignition lock or dashboard panel..
wilifish,you like to drink?
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On the contrary . It would seem Wilfie has not started to imbibe as yet today, but rather wants to demonstrate his understanding of higher maths .
( Either that or he is a Tom Hanks Fan ! )
Wilfie would probably tell you that when it comes to Binary Coding , there are 10 sorts of people.......those that understand it & those that don't !
Fibbo , did you actually buy the boat in that condition ?
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08 November 2013, 15:08
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Member
Country: Other
Boat name: Ribs 8.6
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha V8
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 11
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Yes,i did take it like that,it didnt cost a lot,return of a few favours that i did to this guy. And now i am struggling to get it started,and i understand it,now i am looking for a help from guys who had experience with boats.
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08 November 2013, 22:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
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For fear of being shot down for what I've going to suggest, but can I advise giving no information on how to "hotwire" any outboard or engine on the open forum please. This might give criminals an idea on how to circumvent manufacturers security measures and give a potential thief valuable info.
Fibonacci, I know it's not very helpful of me but I would take your engine to a dealer and get them to have a look at supplying all the bits you need. It sounds like you got a bargain RIB and Outboard and with a little investment you'll get all the proper kit you need to operate your outboard and RIB reliably.
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08 November 2013, 22:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,767
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This may be a daft question...
...is there power to the engine? i.e. is the battery charged? and is the isolator switch turned on?
And does it have an imobiliser...
Y-COP
And is there a fuse?
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09 November 2013, 08:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,299
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For fear of being shot down for what I've going to suggest, but can I advise giving no information on how to "hotwire" any outboard or engine on the open forum please. This might give criminals an idea on how to circumvent manufacturers security measures and give a potential thief valuable info.
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exactly what I was tinking..of course we all know him so well.. he could be the tealeaf who just nicked it!!!
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09 November 2013, 09:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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Is there a reason you want to hotwire it. I'm assuming you're going to rig the boat to use so why not get the loom. You're going to need one eventually
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09 November 2013, 09:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salisbury
Boat name: Blue C
Make: XS 600
Length: 6m +
Engine: 125hp Opti
MMSI: 235082826/235909566
Join Date: Jan 2004
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A Yamaha of that age does it not have an Immobiliser? I seem to remember that some Fly by Wire Yam's do. I am sure it's a seperate key type FoB.
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09 November 2013, 10:21
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Member
Country: Other
Boat name: Ribs 8.6
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha V8
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 11
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Matt h,dont talk stupid,for all i know,you could be a serial killer. I am not a thief,i just want it for now to start this shit,thats all.
Immobiliser is missing also,everything under dash panel is a mess,i got one cabel which goes from engine,13 pin,i have here power,but i cant start it like on simple electric wiring on older cars or so..
I have found something on web,it is from 2012. models,something very similar i have it,check this out: http://www.riverteam.ru/price/Riggin...ide%202012.pdf
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09 November 2013, 10:28
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Fibonacci - you have an engine and no controls. A lot of people on this forum have had engines stolen, finding themselves with controls and no engine. Don't be surprised if some are a little wary of you, they are probably wondering how your engine and it's controls became separated originally, before you "got it from a friend". The advice to take it to a dealer is good - and yet you don't like that idea...
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09 November 2013, 10:31
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Member
Country: Other
Boat name: Ribs 8.6
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha V8
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 11
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I was at dealers place,searching for wiring diagrams,and also i gave them serial number from engine and everything,explaining them that i want for just now to start engine,and then i will buy on e-bay or new parts maybe,thats no problem.
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09 November 2013, 11:03
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fibonacci
I was at dealers place,searching for wiring diagrams,and also i gave them serial number from engine and everything,explaining them that i want for just now to start engine,and then i will buy on e-bay
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Oh I can see how that would make you popular.
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Matt h,dont talk stupid,for all i know,you could be a serial killer. I am not a thief,i just want it for now to start this shit,thats all.
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He might be - but he's not asking you to tell him how to kill people so your analogy falls down a little there.
PikeyD - I think you may need to renumber your rules. Rule 0, Rule 1, Rule 1, Rule 2...
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09 November 2013, 11:40
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Member
Country: Other
Boat name: Ribs 8.6
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha V8
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 11
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Hello there Poly,i see that you pulling my words out of the context,i understand why are you now all hostile towards me,being a intruder here or something like that.
But okay,i will deal with my worries like i always doing,alone,because people are people
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09 November 2013, 12:33
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,317
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fibonacci
I was at dealers place,searching for wiring diagrams,and also i gave them serial number from engine and everything,explaining them that i want for just now to start engine,and then i will buy on e-bay or new parts maybe,thats no problem.
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Where are you based?
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