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Old 18 November 2004, 13:28   #21
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Old 18 November 2004, 13:30   #22
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You're as bad as the rest of 'em, Jeff! I just mean that Jon Brooks is a very good advert for Icom radios. I'm hooked on ICOMs!!

Has your baby got her bottom wet yet?
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Old 18 November 2004, 13:53   #23
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How times have changed.
Used to be the mark of a Mariner was a Golden Earring....
Now it's ...... Radar Love!
No, I haven't got anything else to do!
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Old 18 November 2004, 14:04   #24
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I don’t have radar on the rib, but here’s my view based on working on ex pilot boats

1) I think radar is very good in the following conditions, poor/very poor conditions during the day provided you know what you are doing for collision regs. Also its useful simply because it tells some “something” is there and the distance even if you are not sure how to look at the screen and understand the direction of boats
2) At night, if you get it set up properly, you can see just about anything, e.g. small unlit buoys.

Obviously you should still be looking, as this is an aid to navigation.

I suppose if you don’t have one, then you do your best to make the right decision before setting off. However if you get caught out then – safe speed, e.g. you should be able to stop in half the distance you can see, if the other bloke does the same then you miss (small boats).
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Old 18 November 2004, 14:29   #25
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There are a lot in the industry who think AIS will bite into the radar market in the lesiure sector.

Good thing about AIS is it can see round corners and you know what you looking at.

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Old 18 November 2004, 14:48   #26
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How times have changed.
Used to be the mark of a Mariner was a Golden Earring....
Now it's ...... Radar Love!
No, I haven't got anything else to do!

Sadly, I have the album somewhere.
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Old 18 November 2004, 14:59   #27
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There are a lot in the industry who think AIS will bite into the radar market in the lesiure sector.

Good thing about AIS is it can see round corners and you know what you looking at.

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But it can’t see what’s not transmitting i.e. other leisure boats. Sure, all the commercial vessels will show up but you are just as likely to hit a yacht, that is unless the transponders become compulsory for all vessels . Des
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Old 18 November 2004, 15:00   #28
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There are a lot in the industry who think AIS will bite into the radar market in the lesiure sector.

Good thing about AIS is it can see round corners and you know what you looking at.

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We have an AIS station at work, it is a very good system but it relys alot on user input for the information to be correct, also for anything below 300GRT i don't think that it is compulsary.

What is the cost of a AIS system small enough to fit on a RIB?
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Old 18 November 2004, 15:03   #30
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Good point! did not think of that.

AIS is becoming cheaper.
Have seen an RX only for about £250
And you never know who may be thinking of building one just for the lesuire, small boat market.

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Old 18 November 2004, 15:14   #31
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Old 18 November 2004, 15:17   #32
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And you never know who may be thinking of building one just for the lesuire, small boat market.

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go on John give us a clue
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Old 18 November 2004, 15:20   #33
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Hand on heart i have no idea but we have muted that we could if we put our minds and R&D on it.

But am sure others think the same

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Old 18 November 2004, 15:37   #34
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Again I'm posting toward.......

..........the end of a thread, however, if we don;t have the money,space, inclination to have Radar, should we not in the least have a reflector so those with the kit (usually either fast moving or worse still slow moving) can see us.
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As I'm sure you're aware, Graeme, small craft are required to fit reflectors "if practicable" according to the Solas V Regs.
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Of course.......

........I was aware of that regulation...................sharp exit
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I agree it’s good practice to use a reflector but do they work most of the articles I read about them leave me with the feeling that there operation is at best patchy .

I think I'll adopt Pete7s approach and use smoke, most people notice that.

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Old 18 November 2004, 16:09   #38
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I think I'll adopt Pete7s approach and use smoke, most people notice that.

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Even in the fog or the dark?

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Old 18 November 2004, 16:16   #39
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Good point I think I could induce a back fire which might help in the fog but I’m not sure what to do at night
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A full AIS system retails for about 2k fitted .
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