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26 January 2012, 00:32
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One would imagine then, that a radar reflector mounted from it's top and hanging from the A-frame like a lantern ( maybe with a weight attached "pendulum" stylee ), would present it's reflector flanks correctly. Esp for yachty types who are at an angle when under way.
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There were some that came out in the late 1970s looked like a large globe or ball ,they were a sealed for life unit and came with great blag how good they were with state of the art secret internals.
Secret internals what a joke.... we cut one in half and basicly it was 4 very corroded metal reflector blades that floated on a foam raft in a bath of antifreeze with a weight on the bottom so it kept upright ,,,worked bit like a liquid filled compass ,,
they were really expensive too, but after a couple of years the reflective surfaces began to corrode away or the foam had soaked up the antifreeze making the thing useless.
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26 January 2012, 08:23
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One would imagine then, that a radar reflector mounted from it's top and hanging from the A-frame like a lantern ( maybe with a weight attached "pendulum" stylee ), would present it's reflector flanks correctly. Esp for yachty types who are at an angle when under way.
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Yes in principle. Having seen the regular "my cheap VHF aerial bracket has snapped" threads I expect that it would need to be a properly engineered solution which would cost more than an echomax or trilens.
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Even if it's swinging it would "flash" for the receiver, as it were.
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Bear in mind that the electronics / software in modern radar are quire sophisticated - they are specifically designed to remove spurious noise.
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26 January 2012, 09:58
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I have a Pdf file called:
"Performance Investigation of Marine Radar Reflectors on the Market" by QinetiQ.
It is very interesting so I would like to share it with you but don't know how to put a 2,2 Mb Pdf on here.
Anyone???
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26 January 2012, 10:19
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I have a Pdf file called:
"Performance Investigation of Marine Radar Reflectors on the Market" by QinetiQ.
It is very interesting so I would like to share it with you but don't know how to put a 2,2 Mb Pdf on here.
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Mark, although I am sure the MAIB wouldn't object in principle to sharing the information - that publication is copyright MAIB/QinetiQ and so probably shouldn't be hosted here.
The good news is there is a copy on the MAIB website - along with some interesting stuff on visual acuity of people wearing photochormic (a.k.a. reactalight) specs at night: http://www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources...zo_Annexes.pdf
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26 January 2012, 11:10
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Originally Posted by Polwart
Mark, although I am sure the MAIB wouldn't object in principle to sharing the information - that publication is copyright MAIB/QinetiQ and so probably shouldn't be hosted here.
The good news is there is a copy on the MAIB website - along with some interesting stuff on visual acuity of people wearing photochormic (a.k.a. reactalight) specs at night: http://www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources...zo_Annexes.pdf
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Thanks, I understand. The Pdf-file on my computer isn't the same, it's more extensive with more focus on smaller craft.
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26 January 2012, 14:54
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Thanks, I understand. The Pdf-file on my computer isn't the same, it's more extensive with more focus on smaller craft.
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Ah, I think I posted the wrong link - I will post the right one later.
EDIT: Here is the correct link: http://www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources/Radar reflectors report.pdf
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27 January 2012, 19:17
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Ordering one of these next week spoke to John at Echomax going for white with black welds
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27 January 2012, 22:28
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im thinking that if there is a "ebay blue rib cover club", then we should have a "echomax dustbin club"! im in!
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27 January 2012, 23:51
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im thinking that if there is a "ebay blue rib cover club", then we should have a "echomax dustbin club"! im in!
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14 February 2012, 21:38
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Ordering one of these next week spoke to John at Echomax going for white with black welds
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Joined the Echomax club today need to do some fabrication on a bracket to fix it ,also picked my reupholstered seats up yesterday they look good.
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14 February 2012, 21:48
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Don't be reliant on being "picked-up", make sure you're "heard"!
And to be HEARD you need to YELL..........
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14 February 2012, 21:50
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Be able to yell!!!!!!!!
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14 February 2012, 22:14
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Joined the Echomax club today need to do some fabrication on a bracket to fix it ,also picked my reupholstered seats up yesterday they look good.
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We will be looking forward to your pics
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14 February 2012, 23:02
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So, is everyone in agreement that the small tube type reflectors are useless? We need fit our dive rib out with a decent one soon, echomax type then?
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14 February 2012, 23:30
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So, is everyone in agreement that the small tube type reflectors are useless? We need fit our dive rib out with a decent one soon, echomax type then?
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It's looking that way give them a call and negotiate a deal.
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21 February 2012, 23:33
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I did & we have! Thanks
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21 February 2012, 23:39
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I did & we have! Thanks
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Good been trying to source some stainless today to fix to A frame
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23 February 2012, 10:00
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Good been trying to source some stainless today to fix to A frame
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Mick, don't underestimate the loads created by the "dustbin" when the going gets lumpy. The bracketry needs to be , ahem, substantial.
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25 February 2012, 17:36
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25 March 2012, 15:25
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Hi all,
Thought this might be interesting. It's a how-to on making radar reflectors out of CDs. What I like most about it other than low-cost and effectivness, is it stores flat (take'm apart) and you can make as many as you feel is needed.
R-reflector out of CDs: Really Lightweight Radar Reflector built with CDs
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