Standard Horizont GX2200e not talks to GARMIN 451s

MatFromPoland · 13 March 2016, 17:09

Hello,

I have 2 problems with my electronic equipment

It is new Standard Horizont GX2200e radio (VHF+DSC+GPS+AIS)
And GARMIN 451s which I receive with mine RIB from UK
Antenna is 1,5m GLOMAX 3db

The shipyard who set-up boat has not specialist in VHF radio. They prepare boats for inland water only and such boats usually do not have any VHF.

1. On plane there is poor VHF quality. I see that someone speak something but can not understand it at all.
-- when stay or move slowly it is better but not better than mine SH 851 handheld.

2. Never seen any AIS mark on Garmin Plotter

I have a problem to find any specialist around my house.
And it is uncommon to mix provider of electronics (usually it is Garmin - all equip)

About 1.

a) what can I check by myself ?
b) it can be antenna to close to my radio ? It is about 35 cm and recommended is 50 cm (but in slow speed it works)

About 2.

How to connect properly Radio and Plotter.

I believe that it is current connection mentioned bellow. I'm tired of searching specialist so would like to understand and set-up it and be able to fix it manage on long trip

I'm not sure if I did properly below mentioned steps in Garmin

My boat has been sleeping under cover since few months but I'm ready to install batteries and try to configure electronics. I would like to lend some AIS sender from some security jackets dealer to check if it be visible.

If you think that antenna is too close to radio is there any extension (30 cm) to mount it higher fir GLOMAX equipment ?

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Sorry for my English and sorry for so long post but would like to explain current setup.

ShinyShoe · 13 March 2016, 17:53

Distance from radio to antenna I wouldn't expect to be an issue for receive - its the risk of transmit interfering that means they specify a distance AFAIK.

Is the issue the engine noise or is it electronic interference from the engine, or finally is it the angle of the aerial when underway not being vertical relative to the transmitting station? I'm sure someone with more experience will comment on the specifics of your antenna.

I assume in its current position its at a perfect height for irradiating the driver's head? :-P

Will re-read the AIS stuff and post...

ShinyShoe · 13 March 2016, 17:59

AIS -

Assuming you've wired it correctly have you set the relevant port to receive AIS at the higher baud rate rather than 4800? That would be the most obvious thing to check.
Second thing to check would be the sentence type for the data.

You do kinda need to get somewhere where there is an AIS target so that you can test...

MatFromPoland · 13 March 2016, 18:56

Thank you so much for advice.
About radiation ....
On rear seat I have 3 kids. So I was thinking that better is to radiate parents not kids so this is one of the reason why not installed it on A-Frame. Second problem was lack of space in channel for cables. But I can consider to mount antenna on A-Frame also

About AIS test - I was thinking to buy or borrow Life Jacket with AIS to make a test.

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I have free Wednesday's so this week on next (depends on weather condition) will uncover boat, mount batteries and check, configure everything. Will post progress here.

BTW - what are PORTS mentioned in Garmin's configuration this one showed in my first post. Is it freq LOW or HIGH to transmit data ?

ShinyShoe · 13 March 2016, 20:10

Ports are plugs/sockets -

If u are planning on AIS lifejacket that makes sense. But if not then expensive.

Are you not near a port?

Aerial on A frame emits in a donut shape. Someone directly below it probably gets less exposure than the helm!

ShinyShoe · 13 March 2016, 20:14

Oh AIS would be high freq

MatFromPoland · 13 March 2016, 21:15

I'm not near any port

I'm in the center of Poland Warsaw. To the Sea Coast I have 5-6 hrs towing rib on trailer. I have some lakes near but nobody has any AIS usually

I think I will buy this:

A109-M easyONE-Manual - Weatherdock English

To keep in on boat or mount it to life jacket. It has TEST button which triggers one signal MOB-TEST. Is there any other cheaper solution to use it and keep it ?

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I can buy also SMARTFIND S10 for 180 GBP in Poland.
Based on instruction I can ON it and OFF

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Why personal AIS equipment is so expensive. It is life saving equipment

MatFromPoland · 13 March 2016, 22:29

About Antenna location. I do not remember but Aframe is nearly the same height than this railing when antenna is currently located. This is GLOMEX holder and I can rotate antenna in any angle along boat axis.

I couldn't find any extension for this holder (like holder, fiberglass pipe, next holder)

ShinyShoe · 14 March 2016, 09:51

Personal AIS - while great for testing your receiver is it the right bit of kit for you for safety purposes? Inland waters with no AIS transmission so probably no/few receivers. You do some big journeys in what sometime look quiet spots - same issue? To me AIS PLB is great for the fishing boat or yacht crew who go over on deck at night and there best / only hope of rescue is their own crew finding them.

If you go over (a) will there be any problem noticing (b) will ur crew find you (c) will they be able to recover you. In your situation I'd want to be sending satellite messages...

Is your antenna tilted backwards slightly? Have you tried making it more vertical or even tilting it very slightly forwards?

Still think head much likely to be closer to it where it is than in the A. It's 1m behind you on the A. Some physics says that's gotta be good! But that's an incidental...

ShinyShoe · 14 March 2016, 09:52

Extension.. Screwed fitting must be possible...

MatFromPoland · 14 March 2016, 10:44

I think I have found something:

https://shop.glomex.it/en/leisure-ma...ion&results=33

Current distance is about 36 cm so additional 14-een be perfect (in total be 50 cm)
I have sent query to GLOMEX if it fits my equipment.

About AIS MOB: easyOne-M based on satellite reads GPS coordinates and send AIS signal via VHF I think

A109-M easyONE-Manual - Weatherdock English

I'm really amateur but in TEST mode everyone will see on AIS receivers MOB-TEST message and GPS position.

And yes - it is hard to find AIS transmiter in Poland on internal waters. It be easier to find in the Baltic Sea or ports near Baltic. Will try to buy easyOne-M or smartfind-S10 and check configuration.

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And YES again, I did 1700 km trip in Greece (in total) and never looked at AIS but would like to have working equipment which I have bought and which have all these features. If there is possibility that will find anyone who send MOB via AIS (even if it is near ZERO) it be to good to know that I can see them and help maybe)