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08 August 2007, 22:36
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: scotland
Boat name: tango
Make: looking
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 50
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transducer/help
can anyone tell me how to get accurate info when at speed as i have never had this with any rib where it is mounted on the stern. i dont want to have to put it on the skin or through the hull.
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08 August 2007, 23:12
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Country: Ireland
Town: Galway, West Eire
Make: Cranchi
Length: 5m +
Engine: 2 x Volvo KAD300
Join Date: May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tango1
can anyone tell me how to get accurate info when at speed as i have never had this with any rib where it is mounted on the stern. i dont want to have to put it on the skin or through the hull.
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Having the same problem with my sports cruiser. Solution is to install an in-hull transducer. I was told you can use the existing transom mounted one but for the sake of a few dollars i'd just buy one from the states. I have the advantage in the sports cruiser as there is nothing between the bilge and the water (apart from timber and GRP obviously), not too sure how you'd manage it on the RIB
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08 August 2007, 23:13
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Silicone it into the hull so I have been told!!!
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08 August 2007, 23:14
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Country: Ireland
Town: Galway, West Eire
Make: Cranchi
Length: 5m +
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Silicone it into the hull so I have been told!!!
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Yup, heard that myself, making sure there is no air bubbles. However isin't there a hollow between the floor/underside of the hull on RIB's?
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08 August 2007, 23:19
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: scotland
Boat name: tango
Make: looking
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard
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you are right.
the deck is sealed i used silicon on the hard boat i had and it was perfect. but on a rib this is not the best option.
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09 August 2007, 08:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bembridge
Boat name: Mellow Yellow
Make: Scorpion Pioneer
Length: 9m +
Engine: Outboards Twin 250's
MMSI: 235024352
Join Date: Feb 2005
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The local Rib dealer over here, uses "Marine Epoxy", from Plastic Padding, to affix the transducer to the floor of the hull.
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09 August 2007, 08:32
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Country: UK - England
Town: Peak District
Boat name: Plastique
Make: PRO Sport
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF115 4st.
MMSI: 235015228
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Just to clarify:
Can you get to the inside of the hull near the centre/keel line close to the stern ? If not then I understand your problem but after reading several people's reluctance to use a transducer bonded to the hull I have to say it was a great quick fix for me.
I had a transom mounted transducer which gave me water temp. and water speed but whenever travelling above 5 knots or so it would lose the ability to give the depth. I moved it around but could not find a suitable, non turbulent place. I got a Airmar 'puck' type unit from JG Tech for £80 which was a doodle to fit, just Sikaflex the flange on the tube then fill with castor oil, £1 from chemist then insert transducer - now it works at all speeds and I can live without the water temp/speed. Airmar make a wide range of transducers to suit a variety of head units.
If you need to try many positions for the transom mount unit I can only suggest mounting a strip of acetal/nylon/wood etc along the bottom edge and then you can move it around all the time to find a suitable place without riddling the transom with holes. Just resin up any redundant holes after finding a permanent home for the transducer.
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09 August 2007, 13:17
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Country: UK - England
Make: Ribcraft 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF175TG
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 929
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If you're stuck with transom mounting then play around with different angles/heights. I personally find you need to increase the projection below the hull and angle by about twice that specified in the instructions.
- Make sure the front of the transducer is higher than the back - roughly a 10/15 degree angle
- Make sure the front of the transducer is at least 5mm below the hull of the boat.
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09 August 2007, 22:47
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: scotland
Boat name: tango
Make: looking
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thanks everyone!
i think everyone here is correct,but i have the transum mount at the moment and i ill try moveing it a little but i really dont want to go to the bother of cutting the deck to get to the hull. many thanks to all.
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09 August 2007, 22:52
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Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
MMSI: 235050131
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Tango,
What boat is it and you got any pics of the transom well or rear deck area.
Regards NR.
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10 August 2007, 00:46
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset
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Hi Tango1,
Do you not have a well/sump in the stern of the boat where the bilge pump does/should fit?
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10 August 2007, 02:28
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
Hi Tango1,
Do you not have a well/sump in the stern of the boat where the bilge pump does/should fit?
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Mike,
Thats what I was hoping we would get a picture of then we should be able to on from their. If he's got a sump then it won't be a problem. Nick R.
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12 August 2007, 21:15
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: scotland
Boat name: tango
Make: looking
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard
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pic to follow!
i will upload a pic in the next 24hrs. i dont have sump its very small well if you can call it that. the boat is a delta dash.
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19 August 2007, 22:30
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: scotland
Boat name: tango
Make: looking
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard
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at last the pic!
sorry for the wait!
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19 August 2007, 22:45
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Country: Ireland
Town: Galway, West Eire
Make: Cranchi
Length: 5m +
Engine: 2 x Volvo KAD300
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tango1
sorry for the wait!
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That's way too high! The transducer needs to be under the bottom of the transom
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19 August 2007, 22:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bursledon
Boat name: Mustard
Make: Ribeye 785
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha 200/Merc 6
MMSI: 235068693
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 618
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IMHO the transducer is way too high.
It needs to sit in a clean flow area. We have a set up with Lowrance kit and, after calibration, it is reliable up to our max speed.
I know it means extra holes, but it must go lower. That is assuming the hull is clean. Also, try to avoid areas near chines.
Try some structural adhesive pads first. 3M make them and you can buy them from such as Staples. If it works, drill some holes!
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