Trim tilt

jambo · 04 August 2014, 23:16

Hi the above just stopped tonite with no warning. To save me time going round the system has anyone had experience of this fault and hopefully a remedy.
Cheers
J

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AMac · 04 August 2014, 23:49

Might be better if you tell us engine type etc !

jambo · 05 August 2014, 01:20

Sorry was on my profile. I was lazy. 150 V6 Mariner smoker

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paddlers · 05 August 2014, 06:03

My 135 started playing up & I replaced both relays !

Have you checked the fuses at the back of the engine, mine has a couple of substantial ones?

jambo · 05 August 2014, 08:14

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Originally Posted by paddlers

My 135 started playing up & I replaced both relays !

Have you checked the fuses at the back of the engine, mine has a couple of substantial ones?

Thanks paddlers. This one just stopped mind you it was during all that rain. Fuses were my first port I call. Thanks for your time. Hope you enjoy Kintyre I'm just up a bit at Tayvallich.
Cheers
J

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paddlers · 05 August 2014, 09:26

Cheers Jambo.

We love that part of the world. It's a complete holiday for us all (even when the weather doesn't always help) !

Sorry about stating the obvious previously

Have you tried the motor direct from a 12V battery to see if it's dead?

Pikey Dave · 05 August 2014, 19:03

Billy, has it failed in both directions or just up or down? When you press the trim button, can you hear the relays clicking?

Wibs · 05 August 2014, 19:08

Mine failed, but only when i tried to trim up.

Sea Start came out and switched the relays, which worked - although i could only trim up...!!

New relay for me.

Although 'tapping' the old one did make it work intermittently.

HTH.

jambo · 05 August 2014, 19:08

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Billy, has it failed in both directions or just up or down? When you press the trim button, can you hear the relays clicking?

Hi Dave yes both it's stuck halfway no solenoid clicking it's silent. Engine runs ok.

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CJL · 05 August 2014, 19:21

Boating Resources

Chris

jambo · 05 August 2014, 20:11

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Boating Resources

Chris

This Chris appreciated

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Pikey Dave · 05 August 2014, 21:12

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Originally Posted by jambo

Hi Dave yes both it's stuck halfway no solenoid clicking it's silent. Engine runs ok.

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In that case it could be allsorts. Live supply to trim switch ( has it got a separate tilt switch on the engine cowl? if so does this work?) If you're not getting either solenoid clicking, I'd start at the control box end, could be a dodgy plug in the harness. Without setting about it with a meter, it's all guesswork I'm afraid.

jambo · 05 August 2014, 21:22

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

In that case it could be allsorts. Live supply to trim switch ( has it got a separate tilt switch on the engine cowl? if so does this work?) If you're not getting either solenoid clicking, I'd start at the control box end, could be a dodgy plug in the harness. Without setting about it with a meter, it's all guesswork I'm afraid.

Yes has separate switch on cowl getting nothing from any of them

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Festinghouse · 05 August 2014, 22:40

try bridging the terminals on the top of the relays with a spanner or screwdriver

jambo · 05 August 2014, 23:11

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Originally Posted by Festinghouse

try bridging the terminals on the top of the relays with a spanner or screwdriver

Thanks for that. The result would determine charge I take it?

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A1an · 05 August 2014, 23:22

I can't remember the setup on that engine but are the power wires heading to you T&T unit blue and green?

If they are they should have bullet connectors on them somewhere within their length, split them there and put power to them, doesn't matter which is + and -, polarity just determines up or down movement.

This should tell you if its the pump motor or not.

EDIT

Just read that the relay isn't clicking, forget my test.

Festinghouse · 05 August 2014, 23:46

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Originally Posted by jambo

Thanks for that. The result would determine charge I take it?

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that would rule out faulty relays (as you would be doing the work of the relay by allowing power through) faulty switches and faulty wiring. if it doesnt work then check power is getting up to relays (heavy wires), if so then suspect motor itself

spartacus · 05 August 2014, 23:55

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This should tell you if its the pump motor or not.

If it is pump motor, then suitable brushes can be stripped in.

Tohatsu didn't sell trim repair kits (brushes, 'o' ring) for my 2006 engine which I was genuinely surprised at and wanted £120 for a new unit. Aye that will be right.

Used Honda CBR 125 brushes, new springs (120B) from Meccano, and topped up hydraulic fluid with Mobil 220ATF.

If it is motor, then open it up and take a look. They're fairly basic inside.

Pikey Dave · 06 August 2014, 08:34

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Originally Posted by jambo

Yes has separate switch on cowl getting nothing from any of them

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It's not at the control box end then, check out the earth connection for the relays & the motor, they could possibly all come back to the same place.

jambo · 06 August 2014, 08:59

Thanks guys will try all your suggestions. Thanks again for taking the time appreciated.
Cheers
J

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