Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 20 July 2011, 11:54   #1
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: England
Boat name: n/a
Make: n/a
Length: no boat
Engine: n/a
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 368
-ve wiring

Hi

I have a positive distribution block in my console but no negative. There is a navlight on my boat with a switch on the console.

The wiring for the nav light goes something like this:

Wire from (fused) positive block to switch. Switch goes back to light and then to battery (-ve).

I am installing a radio in the console, obviously I have positive power from the block but no way to complete the circuit back to the battery on the -ve side. Can I run a single cable back to the battery -ve terminal and attach all the negative cables from devices such as radio/chartplotter?

Thanks
__________________
rigi36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 July 2011, 12:39   #2
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: England
Boat name: n/a
Make: n/a
Length: no boat
Engine: n/a
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 368
Something like this? The =ve busbar has individual fuses for each terminal and the radio has its own inline fuse. I take it I could go straight back to the battery without the -ve bar as I only have one piece of equipment (the radio) installed at the moment.

Thanks.

__________________
rigi36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 July 2011, 12:51   #3
Member
 
martini's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
Sounds good to me
__________________
martini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 July 2011, 13:08   #4
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: England
Boat name: n/a
Make: n/a
Length: no boat
Engine: n/a
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 368
It's annoying that the people that installed the engine and the nav light didn't put a negative return feed in the console, I will have to run another cable.

I take it 1.5mm^2 tinned thinwall cable rated at 21a will do the job? For now all it will be returning is electricity from the radio.
__________________
rigi36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 July 2011, 13:11   #5
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,596
If you go to the trouble of laying in a negative cable, make it a reasonable size so it's future proof.
__________________
JW.
jwalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 July 2011, 13:16   #6
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: England
Boat name: n/a
Make: n/a
Length: no boat
Engine: n/a
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 368
How many amps would you say for a chartplotter and a vhf? That's the most it's ever going to need to handle.
__________________
rigi36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 July 2011, 13:22   #7
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,596
Quote:
Originally Posted by maxhar View Post
How many amps would you say for a chartplotter and a vhf? That's the most it's ever going to need to handle.
Dunno, look in the manuals. A VHF transmitting on 25watts is going to be 2.5ampsish for starters. If your cable run is long, there will be a voltage drop due to its resistance.
Fatter cable = less resistance.
__________________
JW.
jwalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 July 2011, 13:25   #8
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: England
Boat name: n/a
Make: n/a
Length: no boat
Engine: n/a
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 368
The 21 amp thinwall cable should be fine then.
__________________
rigi36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 July 2011, 13:27   #9
Member
 
Erin's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
Gut feel tells me I'd want a 3mm or 5mm cable ready for any future goodies. No point scrimping especially where safety gear is concerned. It can be calculated but you'd need to know the length of wire needed and the current draw. Don't forget that the length needs to be both the pos and neg distances added together.
Erin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 July 2011, 13:28   #10
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,596
Quote:
Originally Posted by maxhar View Post
The 21 amp thinwall cable should be fine then.
Thin wall? Are you likely to nip it, walk on it, trap it, drag it through a hole etc...?
__________________
JW.
jwalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 July 2011, 20:43   #11
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: England
Boat name: n/a
Make: n/a
Length: no boat
Engine: n/a
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 368
Ok, how about 4mm^2 black tinned cable to go back to the battery then?
__________________
rigi36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 July 2011, 21:32   #12
Member
 
Erin's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
Sounds good
Erin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 12:28.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.