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26 June 2024, 06:47
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Member
Country: Canada
Boat name: Sea Scoot
Length: 6m +
Engine: 50hp Yamaha outboard
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VHF antenna recommendations for 18ft RIB
icom 25W fixed VHF, need an antenna. What would you guys recommend?
Going to mount it off the transom on a folding mount (so it can fold flat with the hull when putting the boat cover on)
18ft zodiac, flattish bottom, so definitely gets thrown around in the waves so I'm assuming something durable would be good, but I have no context!
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26 June 2024, 17:23
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
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Metz Manta 6 antenna (whip). Made in the US. The US coastguard use them too. You may want to think about a collapsible pole - as height is the name of the game. I suppose it depends on boat traffic and your local coastguard station.
Solder the coax cable ends with the connectors. They have stainless brackets, etc.
https://www.metzantennas.com/product/manta-6/
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26 June 2024, 20:18
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spartacus
You may want to think about a collapsible pole - as height is the name of the game.
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My thoughts exactly, he might even stick a nav pod on there too, solve his other issue...
Nav Pod Linky
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27 June 2024, 04:59
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Country: USA
Town: NorCal
Boat name: SHARKY
Make: AB
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
Join Date: Dec 2009
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I use a Shakespeare 5225XT Galaxy 7.75ft. Oddly enough they offer this shorter version than the normal 8ft antenna as it is cheaper to ship in the USA. I bought mine for $133US at Home Depot dot com, but now they are far more expensive at $174US. Good antenna but slightly more pricey when not on sale. I would buy the same antenna again, and researched antennas before buying Shakespeare.
My past 4.2m Zodiac I had the exact same antenna mounted to the transom on the inside so it folded into the boat next to the tube. My current AB it is attached to the console giving it decent height and the location is out of the way on the starboard side almost over the tube. It is set up to fold forward tucking under the bow cleat on top of the bow.
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28 June 2024, 13:05
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
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No general reflection on Shakespeare, but I bought a budget unit of theirs recently - basically a 1.4m fiberglass model. It failed after install - I hadda rip the entire thing back to the VHF - a complete mare. As chance would have it, I replaced with the same model - seems to be working well. I wasn't impressed with what fell outta the failed unit when I opened it.
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28 June 2024, 18:32
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Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
Join Date: Jul 2003
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I don’t like my Shakespeare dorsal fin one. Didn’t expect great range, but it’s just too poor. On the other boat I have a Bantem 1.5m GRP one and it seems decent. Despite being mounted pretty low, it seems to work well enough.
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28 June 2024, 18:52
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Never rated Shakespeare antennas, even in my teenage CB days they were the bargain basement end. Very plasticky & cheaply made. Vtronix used to be the goto antenna for consumer use, but they have gone downhill, the RIB raider is a prime example. I have Procomm antennas on the current RIB on the recommendation of ICOM, they are commercial units, pricey but you can see where the money goes.
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28 June 2024, 19:22
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Member
Country: USA
Town: NorCal
Boat name: SHARKY
Make: AB
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
Join Date: Dec 2009
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28 June 2024, 19:41
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_C
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Thanks, a little cheery news
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28 June 2024, 20:58
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Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Yeah, I avoided rib raider because of what I read here.
The bantam one is a bit big, but at the end of the day, I want decent range. I think I’ll put the same on the rib a-frame imminently.
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28 June 2024, 21:05
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RIBnet admin team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
Yeah, I avoided rib raider because of what I read here.
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Probably some of my comments - complete rubbish in my experience. They work and then they fail.
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28 June 2024, 22:12
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Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Yes, that’s my recollection, so it was probably your post.
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28 June 2024, 23:28
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Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Boat name: El Mono
Make: Ribtec 9M
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yanmar 315/Bravo III
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
Yeah, I avoided rib raider because of what I read here.
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I did search here first a few weeks ago and found the same feedback, but ended up fitting a Rib Raider to a friend's boat mainly because of the size/price. I suspect it will get smashed off before it fails anyway given his penchant for low bridges (which is precisely why I was replacing it!)...
Personally for a smaller antenna on my boats I'd probably go with Metz given all the positive feedback.
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29 June 2024, 11:50
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
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Just in case anyone else is wondering:
Rib Raider Good Points:
Looks good
Great name
Compact
Rib Raider Bad Points:
Rusts after a couple of seasons
Snaps if pushed sideways a little
Prone to internal failure - no comms
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29 June 2024, 13:07
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Engine: DF140a
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Are Metz still available? IIRC Salty John was the agent & he gave up, not seen or heard of them in a while. Good bit of kit in the day.
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29 June 2024, 22:02
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Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Boat name: El Mono
Make: Ribtec 9M
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yanmar 315/Bravo III
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Are Metz still available? IIRC Salty John was the agent & he gave up, not seen or heard of them in a while. Good bit of kit in the day.
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Yes, SeasTheDay took over the agency for the UK: https://seasthedaymarine.co.uk/produ...-with-bracket/
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29 June 2024, 22:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbrown22
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IIRC they were Phil & Jane on here.
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29 June 2024, 22:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
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In which case they ought to be promoting them on here (with a trade membership, obviously) they were always a no nonsense “do what it says on the tin” bit of kit.
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14 November 2024, 08:02
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Trade member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wirral, Merseyside
Boat name: Carpe Diem
Make: Ballistic
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude 200hp
MMSI: 235109239
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Hi Dave, to my shame, I haven’t looked at Ribnet for a while but yes, I took over the UK and European distribution of Metz a few years ago. I did try advertising in the various magazines and on here, but whenever I get a customer and ask them where they found my website, they always say it is through word of mouth.
I carry plenty of stock and have the fold down mounts at seasthedaymarine.co.uk
With best regards, Phil.
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