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09 September 2010, 11:46
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Waterproof connectors that are disconnectable ?
Hi,
Does anybody know if there are waterproof/submergeable connectors which are also easily disconnectable ? The bilgepump that I have is electrically connected in such a way that you can easily exchange the pump if it fails. You just unclip the male/female wire connector and clip in a the connector from the new (rule) pump. Very easy and simple. Unfortunately the connector is not allways waterproof causing the bilgepumt to short out, with the expectable consequences.
I have read many posts on soldering/crimping solutions but these are all (semi) permanent. Does anybody know of waterproof connectors - that are disconnectable - which really are waterproof ?
Thanks
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09 September 2010, 11:52
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Boat name: Black Pig
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09 September 2010, 13:04
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Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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How often are you planning on changing the bilge pump? I know it's a Rule , but even these should see the entire season out.
Solder & heatshrink should outlast the bilge pump if done properly.
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09 September 2010, 14:04
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Wurth do some pretty good connectors, but you would have to replace half the connector every time with a new one and the pins have to be crimped with the right tool, and they're not really submersible.
To sum up I wouldn't bother - just solder and heatshrink them!
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09 September 2010, 14:05
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look up the superseal range of power connectors.
They are waterproof, reasonably cheap, and available on line easily.
Nasher
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09 September 2010, 14:12
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
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These are good enough for MOD pac22 and seariders. you can get the one that houses a standard "legobrick" connector. should do the job.
alternatively why not just put enough wire on it so you can pull the pump clear for easy acess to the joint, and solder /heatshrink without being on your knees. cable tie up excess when re-fitting?
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09 September 2010, 16:11
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Don't know if they're available on your side of the pond, but:
http://www.suresealconnections.com
Haven't used them, but ran across them while I was researching a similar project.
jky
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09 September 2010, 16:23
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bulgin will give out free samples.........if you word your enquiry correctly
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09 September 2010, 17:44
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Screwfix but their out of stock atm.
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09 September 2010, 18:01
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Deutche Connectors
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09 September 2010, 18:12
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09 September 2010, 19:35
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Country: Belgium
Town: Ghent Belgium
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Make: Scorpion 9,75 m
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Thanks for all the suggestions.
The rule bilgepump that I have lasts approx 3 months so each season I have to replace at least two of them. I use Deutsch connectors but they are not as waterproof as the advert says. I am kind of reluctant to solder new connections each time although I agree that this would probably be best. I will look at the other connector brands.
Which starts the question on are there better bilge pump brands than Rule ??
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09 September 2010, 22:03
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Originally Posted by Quickflash
I am kind of reluctant to solder new connections each time although I agree that this would probably be best.
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How do you connect the new pump to the plug/socket? Soldered joint?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quickflash
Which starts the question on are there better bilge pump brands than Rule ??
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You're very loyal to the brand.
I'd be tempted to try something different at that rate. Are they replaced under warranty?
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09 September 2010, 22:11
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Bulgin
I had the Bulgin ones in the back of my searider for the A frame lights and bilge pump.
Very good but you have to have round cable for the gland on the plug to seal.
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09 September 2010, 22:32
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Me too - very impressed with them but still fill them with vaseline/silicone grease.
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11 September 2010, 09:34
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Sure-seal
I would go for the "sure-seal" made by ITT- Cannon, you can get them from RS and Farnell. Crimp the wires on then back-fill the connector with hot glue and cover with heat shrink sleeve. Should keep all water out!
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27 September 2010, 19:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quickflash
Hi,
Does anybody know if there are waterproof/submergeable connectors which are also easily disconnectable ? The bilgepump that I have is electrically connected in such a way that you can easily exchange the pump if it fails. You just unclip the male/female wire connector and clip in a the connector from the new (rule) pump. Very easy and simple. Unfortunately the connector is not allways waterproof causing the bilgepumt to short out, with the expectable consequences.
I have read many posts on soldering/crimping solutions but these are all (semi) permanent. Does anybody know of waterproof connectors - that are disconnectable - which really are waterproof ?
Thanks
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Hi quickflash , i use bullet connectors with a sleve on, before you push both ends together fill the sleve with waterproof grease, it stop water getting inside, hope that helps
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