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13 April 2016, 16:34
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Which battery cables? 50hp Mariner
Hi all,
I want to replace the old cables running from the battery to my 50hp Mariner 2 stroke, but I don't want to pay the £9 a metre my local chandlers want.
Can anyone recommend a cheaper option?
Thanks,
Will
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13 April 2016, 16:38
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Go to your local welding supplier and they'll make up a pukka set for you for buttons. Depending on the length of run go for a decent gauge. It makes such a difference. Nik
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13 April 2016, 16:39
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Thanks Nik. Anything I should be particularly looking out for? A particular diameter etc.
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13 April 2016, 16:41
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Yep, Machine Mart sell good quality jump leads, one is red and the other black which is nice. They have two types which will do for you, one is 3.5mts x 41mm section and the other is 4.5mts and 54mm section. £23.98 and £35.98 respectively.
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13 April 2016, 16:50
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25 mm welding cable is the correct dia. I normally pay 28 for 7 metres
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13 April 2016, 16:56
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Which battery cables? 50hp Mariner
Personally I'd look for tinned cables in addition to the correct size.
Cross sectional area (csa) is also dependant on length- longer the cable, bigger the CSA needs to be.
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13 April 2016, 17:10
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Thanks all. Just phoned local welders and asked if they could make up battery cables from welding cable and the guy had no idea what I was on about. Might have to be Machine Mart then...
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13 April 2016, 17:12
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I too would look for tinned cable. I would not use non tinned cable for this purpose. But I agree it is very expensive.
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13 April 2016, 17:17
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I've never used Tinned on the big stuff,on the smaller diameter wiring it makes sense but ...its such a big hunk of copper you'll be fine and will last for many years!
Just go Big don't skimp and it'll be fine
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13 April 2016, 17:25
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Thanks all!
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13 April 2016, 18:46
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Quote:
Personally I'd look for tinned cables in addition to the correct size.
Cross sectional area (csa) is also dependant on length- longer the cable, bigger the CSA needs to be.
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Noooo PD The guy said he's on a budget hence its not worth mentioning.25mm is perfect for that application.
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13 April 2016, 20:10
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Thanks Matt. In all honesty my rib isn't nice enough to spend heaps on - hence me scrounging a bit!
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13 April 2016, 21:53
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Originally Posted by matt h
Noooo PD The guy said he's on a budget hence its not worth mentioning.25mm is perfect for that application.
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Ah well! You know me, I like to do a proper job 😏
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13 April 2016, 23:39
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go to electrical wholesaler and ask for try rated singles
i should know as do it for job
about 3 meter
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14 April 2016, 06:59
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Noooo PD The guy said he's on a budget hence its not worth mentioning.25mm is perfect for that application.
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Hardly going to break the bank in the big scheme of things, a lot cheaper than a tank of fuel
http://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/9500004...Tinned-0001%22
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14 April 2016, 08:16
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True
]Hardly going to break the bank in the big scheme of things, a lot cheaper than a tank of fuel
True. Why dont you offer to buy it for him as it may break his bank but not yours possibly PD?
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14 April 2016, 08:38
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I fitted welding cable to our little rib about 12 years ago and it's never failed I soldered the cables so the solder transmitted a little way up the cable then heat shrinked the outer rubber sheath to the terminal so I doubt much water gets up the cable
And tbh how long do you want it to last?
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14 April 2016, 09:50
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Quote:
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]Hardly going to break the bank in the big scheme of things, a lot cheaper than a tank of fuel
True. Why dont you offer to buy it for him as it may break his bank but not yours possibly PD?
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14 April 2016, 23:46
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Originally Posted by willyc83
Thanks all. Just phoned local welders and asked if they could make up battery cables from welding cable and the guy had no idea what I was on about. Might have to be Machine Mart then...
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That shouldn't matter that they don't understand, just give them the specs..ie: length, size, lugs, etc...
I used to work in a welding supply store, we sold more welding cable for non-welding devices than for the welders.
Erik
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14 April 2016, 23:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VanillaIceCream
That shouldn't matter that they don't understand, just give them the specs..ie: length, size, lugs, etc...
I used to work in a welding supply store, we sold more welding cable for non-welding devices than for the welders.
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That's exactly right I prefer to just buy the cables and solder the terminal lugs on then the solder acts as a water block if you heat shrink between the lug and terminal then water can't get in
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