Which Radar.. - Page 2

codprawn · 19 June 2007, 19:27

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Originally Posted by bedajim

so if you have no radar just a Garmin 178c, so starting from scratch what would you spec?

Depends how much you want to spend and how much you will use it.

Something like the Furuno 1623

http://www.boatbitz.co.uk/product_in...47cd983a3ba1fa

Shop around though and you may get it for less but don't go near Cactus/MES.

Mollers · 19 June 2007, 19:30

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Originally Posted by bedajim

so if you have no radar just a Garmin 178c, so starting from scratch what would you spec?

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=151&pID=225

Neat as a pin, plugs straight in.

I've found them in the States on Ebay for $999.

Downhilldai · 19 June 2007, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Mollers

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=151&pID=225

Neat as a pin, plugs straight in.

I've found them in the States on Ebay for $999.

Won't work with a Garmin 178C though. That plotter isn't Garmin Network Compatible.

2012Marine · 19 June 2007, 20:39

Guys,

My 7.8m has a C80 / DSM 300 Sounder with transome mopunt / Wifi Lifetag system, 2kw RADAR, (AIS is been fitted this week) and interfaced with NMEA to Suzuki 300 and to Raymarine 240E DSC VHF. I also have a Gecko intercom system PTT integrated.

My back up is Garmin Handheld on bike mount / Simrad RD 68

Backup for this handbearing compas and handheld

Anyway to the point - the Rig is awsome and not over the top as I do x channel, Belgium, holland etc if anyone would like to come have a look at the installation poke around ask questions fiddle with the knobs buttons your more than welcome. Also happy to try and answer any tech questions on the Raymarine stuff.

Cheers

Greg

Mollers · 19 June 2007, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Downhilldai

Won't work with a Garmin 178C though. That plotter isn't Garmin Network Compatible.

Eh?! What a load of junk!!!!

Nasher · 19 June 2007, 22:04

I'll probably be accused of being biased, but I like the plug and play nature of my Raymarine gear.

My C120 display is connected up to the external GPS Ariel, a DSM300 Digital Fishfinder module, and transom mount 600W Transducer. Plus Navionics chart of course.

If I needed Radar, all would have to do is mount the dome, connect it to a power supply, and plug it in the back of the C120.

However, I do think that the C80 is a little small screen size wise to split 3 ways.

Nasher

2012Marine · 19 June 2007, 22:27

Nasher

Probably agree with you the 3 way spit is a little tight, but the flexibillity to customise the screen splits helps. Don't use the RADAR that often so not really a problem. Looking forward to getting the AIS module as this will be overlaid on the Chart, just plugs in between the vhf and plotter. P&P
Quite a few ribs have twin display set ups so keeping the functionality, and packaging it smaller and thus having redundancy is useful.

cheers

gm

www.2012marine.com

Downhilldai · 19 June 2007, 23:08

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Originally Posted by Mollers

Eh?! What a load of junk!!!!

Yep - you have to get into the higher end Garmin kit (3000+ series) to have Network Compatibility. It would run the bill up a bit as the list price of the 3005C (5" screen) plotter is pushing £900 and no sounder included.

Mollers · 19 June 2007, 23:12

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Originally Posted by Downhilldai

Yep - you have to get into the higher end Garmin kit (3000+ series) to have Network Compatibility. It would run the bill up a bit as the list price of the 3005C (5" screen) plotter is pushing £900 and no sounder included.

It would appear which ever Radar road one should go down it ain't cheap.

Signed up for the Datmouth bash yet Dai?

Downhilldai · 20 June 2007, 10:24

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Originally Posted by Mollers

Signed up for the Datmouth bash yet Dai?

Yes - just need to put a couple more patches on my Flatacraft and change the plug on my Seagull.

Andy Gee · 20 June 2007, 10:56

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Originally Posted by 2012Marine

Nasher

Probably agree with you the 3 way spit is a little tight, but the flexibillity to customise the screen splits helps. Don't use the RADAR that often so not really a problem. Looking forward to getting the AIS module as this will be overlaid on the Chart, just plugs in between the vhf and plotter. P&P
Quite a few ribs have twin display set ups so keeping the functionality, and packaging it smaller and thus having redundancy is useful.

cheers

gm

www.2012marine.com

What AIS module have you gone for? I have basically the same set up but went for the 4Kw Radome instead of the 2.
We have both Furuno and Raymarine stuff on the boats and the Raymarine stuff is by far easier to work and IMHO every bit as good as Furuno.
cheers
Andy

Nasher · 20 June 2007, 11:49

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Originally Posted by Andy Gee

What AIS module have you gone for? I have basically the same set up but went for the 4Kw Radome instead of the 2.
We have both Furuno and Raymarine stuff on the boats and the Raymarine stuff is by far easier to work and IMHO every bit as good as Furuno.
cheers
Andy

Andy

I believe Greg has gone for the (very) new Raymarine AIS module.

Nasher.

2012Marine · 20 June 2007, 21:43

On the money,

The AIS250 is a switched dual channel, multiplexed system, which means a single receiver uses complex software to monitor AIS Class A and Class B transmissions over both standard VHF frequencies. For ease of fitting, the AIS250 uses a splitter circuit to utilise the existing VHF antenna and cabling, and links to the existing VHF radio on board.

Raymarine’s E and C Series multifunction displays have been upgraded to show AIS symbols and information directly on to both the chartplotter and radar screens.

GM

Tony · 21 June 2007, 06:17

am i right in thinking th AIS thingy will only pick up other boats with AIS?
So in theory it is better at detecting other boats in poor conditions?
thanks
you have all been very helpful
Tony

codprawn · 21 June 2007, 12:29

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Originally Posted by Tony

am i right in thinking th AIS thingy will only pick up other boats with AIS?
So in theory it is better at detecting other boats in poor conditions?
thanks
you have all been very helpful
Tony

AIS data is transmitted by vessels - if they are not transmitting or sending out the wrong data then you are none the wiser. It tends to be commercial vessels that transmit the info so it's great if a fast ferry is heading for you but won't show up a Sunseeker at 40kts!!!

I think there is a move to class b transmitters for private boats but things may get a bit cluttered in some areas!!!

Bulligmore · 28 July 2007, 23:33

Does the radar do any damage to your head on a RIB, I am think the scaner is on the A fram sending a singnal through your head. And how does it effect the GPS which is going to be close on a A frame?

codprawn · 29 July 2007, 02:14

Would you stand in front of a microwave with the door open?

Biggles · 29 July 2007, 02:43

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Would you stand in front of a microwave with the door open?

yeh,

With silver foil wrapped round my head. He He

Roy Smith · 29 July 2007, 15:25

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Depends how much you want to spend and how much you will use it.

Something like the Furuno 1623

http://www.boatbitz.co.uk/product_in...47cd983a3ba1fa

Shop around though and you may get it for less but don't go near Cactus/MES.

We got all our Raymarine stuff from Catus and it was fine, However when i looked closer i could have got it just as cheep from Marine Superstore at Portsolent

cuzza · 30 July 2007, 21:49

I'm starting from scratch so not really in the same boat, but I am going for the Garmin 3010c & GMR18 radar.

I started of seeing a friends Garmin 4008 on his boat and wanting one. After looking at specs in detail I found the 3010c package deal which seems to good to turn down. Maybe I am wrong but the Garmin radar (4kw, 36nm) seems to outperform the Raymarine counterpart whilst the 3010c itself offers video input and much more, almost in fact the same as the Raymarine E series.

I intend to part with my money tomorrow afternoon so if anyone thinks I am making a bad decision please let me know asap. I can't honestly see what though.