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26 February 2008, 15:52
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Will It Charge It?
Will a solar charger charge up a flat, or flattish, battery? Or will they only top up a fully charged battery?
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26 February 2008, 16:24
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Originally Posted by Andy Moore
Will a solar charger charge up a flat, or flattish, battery? Or will they only top up a fully charged battery?
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No it won't unless the solar panel is as big as your house
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26 February 2008, 16:35
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A reasonably sized one will charge a battery. I've got one on my boat roof and another on my caravan roof. They both feed through a 3 stage regulator (al40 will be pleased with me.) and therefore make a good charging system.
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27 February 2008, 09:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwalker
A reasonably sized one will charge a battery. I've got one on my boat roof and another on my caravan roof. They both feed through a 3 stage regulator (al40 will be pleased with me.) and therefore make a good charging system.
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Caravan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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27 February 2008, 09:59
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I did think twice before mentioning it.
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27 February 2008, 17:04
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It will charge, but it may take a (really long) while.
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27 February 2008, 23:58
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A customer of mine has just installed approx 5 Im square panels on his barn roof conected to the grid and his house . inside there is a box showing the power they are putting out , i was amazed on a bright dry day last week the meter was showing around 2kw most of the day .
he tells me they are not ordinary solar cells but Photovotaics (not sure thats how its spelled but that how it sounds )
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28 February 2008, 02:29
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Did he say how much it cost?
Remember 2kw is about 20p an hour.
Typically a 2kw installation will cost about £10,000. Even assuming you get 2kw for 8hrs a day and 200 days a year(no chance in UK) that only equals £320 a year - that means it will take 31 years just to break even. that is not counting the fact that £10,000 stuck in a high interest bank account will be worth quite a lot in 30 yrs time!!!
Our local Tesco has a 40kw array that cost £2 million. On a typical overcast day it can read as low as 120W..........
They are actually photovoltaics
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28 February 2008, 16:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ian parkes
he tells me they are not ordinary solar cells but Photovotaics (not sure thats how its spelled but that how it sounds )
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Photo = light
Voltaic = electricity
Not sure why that would be different than other solar cells.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cell
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28 February 2008, 20:49
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Did he say how much it cost?
Remember 2kw is about 20p an hour.
Typically a 2kw installation will cost about £10,000. Even assuming you get 2kw for 8hrs a day and 200 days a year(no chance in UK) that only equals £320 a year - that means it will take 31 years just to break even. that is not counting the fact that £10,000 stuck in a high interest bank account will be worth quite a lot in 30 yrs time!!!
Our local Tesco has a 40kw array that cost £2 million. On a typical overcast day it can read as low as 120W..........
They are actually photovoltaics
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He just said it cost a lot , i could ask him . He is aware that it will take years to break even but the "green issues" are his pet subject.
They were drilling deep bore holes the last time I was there for use with a heat pump to run underfloor heating . the solar cells are going to produce the power for the heat pump and when its not in use he sells the elcrtric back to the grid .
i just wish they would get it sorted and the floor layed so that i can finish the kitchen i have made for him , but no one can work out the pipe diameters and pump size required .It seems the teknology is too new for anyone to really commit to proper specifications .
Another customer has a place by the river with ponds etc and that has a water wheel producing over 6kw and a heat pump running from copper coils in the river that runs 21 huge old iron radiators, its a really huge old place and warm as toast
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28 February 2008, 21:36
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Ah now water power is a TOTALLY different matter. They used to run whole engineering works and woollen mills off things like that - makes great sense and watermills can be very pretty!!!
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28 February 2008, 22:34
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Ah now water power is a TOTALLY different matter. They used to run whole engineering works and woollen mills off things like that - makes great sense and watermills can be very pretty!!!
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Yes the place iam talking about is an old water mill . I rebuilt the huge water wheel and all the sluice gates etc , It was amazing to see it all come to life as I let the water back into the leat.
There was 3 stories of wooden cog wheels amd millgear etc all turning , they put a big glass panell in the floor so you stand there and watch it all working . it made me feel that we have moved backwards in so many ways with tecknology.
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28 February 2008, 22:37
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What a job - beats being stuck in a server room with everyone screaming at you because the whole system is down just because some idiot forklift driver switched off a microwave link - want to swop???
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28 February 2008, 23:09
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Originally Posted by codprawn
What a job - beats being stuck in a server room with everyone screaming at you because the whole system is down just because some idiot forklift driver switched off a microwave link - want to swop???
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I don't get many like that , but ill take the chance and swap wages
Most of the time people want things for next to nothing and ready yesterday with 2 months credit .
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28 February 2008, 23:41
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Oh I know that feeling well. Big companies are great as they have IT people who can see just how good we are - in smaller outfits they don't have a clue so they think that when something goes wrong it's your fault.
That's why I am changing business!!! Setting up a website for parcel and pallet deliveries. A bit like Parcels2Go but better and cheaper(I hope). Will be called Speedshift.
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