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06 May 2011, 12:46
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Originally Posted by Erin
...Proper installation.
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Some insulating caps over the +ve terminals would be nice...
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06 May 2011, 13:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
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Good luck with the re-wire, I was in the same position as you about 6 months ago, boat needed completely re-doing and I didn't have a clue as to where to start. Thanks to some great advice on here and detailed instructions from DHD all is now done and back on the water. Yes I've made mistakes and done things a bit cack handedly but it all works (at the moment ) and most importantly I know the boat and the electrics very well, if I get a fault amongst the 12V wiring I'm confident of putting it right myself
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06 May 2011, 15:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
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Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Some insulating caps over the +ve terminals would be nice...
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Covers fitted when the sealer is dry
Anyway not my boat anymore but still ok I believe
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06 May 2011, 16:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Originally Posted by Kernow
I was in the same position as you about 6 months ago,the boat needed completely re-doing and I didn't have a clue as to where to start. I've made mistakes and done things a bit cack, If I get a fault amongst the 12V wiring now, I'm f'ked.
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Good luck.
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06 May 2011, 16:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Originally Posted by Mollers
Good luck.
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Hey at least I didn't get my A frame made up by a trike riding Porn star!
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06 May 2011, 16:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Originally Posted by Kernow
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Did I?!!!
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07 May 2011, 10:44
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Thanks for all replies, I appreciate it. I finished fitting the fuel trays and have connected up the fuel system last weekend. Shift and gear link cables to fit next and the throttle installation, together with trim and tacho gauges.
Next the electrics. Battery box on order, together with battery isolator, rocker switches, fuse box, bus-bar, etc.
Pics to follow.
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15 May 2011, 21:49
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
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If it doesn't rain it pours!
Fed most of the cables through the under-deck trunking for the outboard, throttle, etc. Because the aperture is quite tight (under-deck trunking), I disconnected the throttle wiring to the remote control to haul it through. At some point the start in gear protector (a little electrical switch plunger) in the remote control throttle has taken been damaged when I was putting it all back together. I checked my Tohatsu parts and it doesn't show up. I've emailed Tohatsu UK to see if they can help.
The part is made by Omron in Japan. Part number: 1566RRA
Not holding out much hope. I've rebuilt the part and held it together with epoxy, however I'd rather have a replacement, as these things always niggle me when I'm out. Anyone know of a Tohatsu remote control unit that's being broken for spares?
Is they're a knack to hauling cables through - do you grease them to aid?
The only silver lining was firing the engine up after one and a half years! Bit smokey... but music to me ears.
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16 May 2011, 06:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Omron are a well known switch manf. Try looking on RS or Farnells websites. I find a squirt of silicone spray helps when drawing cables through the trunks, also have somone at the other end feeding the cable into the trunk as you pull.
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16 May 2011, 08:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Buckingham
Make: Ribcraft 4.8
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 75
Join Date: Feb 2007
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My old Yamaha control box had a similar broken microswitch and I just replaced it with one of these V3 Style Alarm TamperSwitch : Micro Switches : Maplin £2.99 (you can gently remove the steel arm if that is not required). Farnell or RS will have a wider range of microswitches if the above one is the wrong size though !
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16 May 2011, 10:00
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,650
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Originally Posted by BumbleAbout
My old Yamaha control box had a similar broken microswitch and I just replaced it with one of these V3 Style Alarm TamperSwitch : Micro Switches : Maplin £2.99 (you can gently remove the steel arm if that is not required). Farnell or RS will have a wider range of microswitches if the above one is the wrong size though !
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Excellent. Gotta be worth it at that price... thank you.
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16 May 2011, 11:08
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Omron are a well known switch manf. Try looking on RS or Farnells websites. I find a squirt of silicone spray helps when drawing cables through the trunks, also have somone at the other end feeding the cable into the trunk as you pull.
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Thanks for that. I see RS tools have Omron micro-switches. Quite a selection. I'll probably go for one that has the 4mm travel on the plunger, as it was that part that was failing to make contact properly after it was damaged.
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16 May 2011, 22:01
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Originally Posted by spartacus
Thanks for that. I see RS tools have Omron micro-switches. Quite a selection. I'll probably go for one that has the 4mm travel on the plunger, as it was that part that was failing to make contact properly after it was damaged.
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Quick update... Tohatsu got back to me today. Part in stock and can be ordered via main dealer. £10 something plus VAT.
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28 May 2011, 18:44
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Fitting VHF antenna
About to fit the Metz antenna. I don't have an A-frame, so was planning to fit if next to the grab handle on the starboard side of the console. Is this location okay, or would you get a Metz rail mount adaptor and get it full height?
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29 May 2011, 06:51
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by spartacus
About to fit the Metz antenna. I don't have an A-frame, so was planning to fit if next to the grab handle on the starboard side of the console. Is this location okay, or would you get a Metz rail mount adaptor and get it full height?
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I'd mount it full height on a lightpole somewhere. It'll annoy you when it wobbles about otherwise.
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19 June 2011, 21:16
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,650
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Finished the boat. Some minor tweaks today including a stainless steel eye for the auxilliary engine when it's in the tilt position (ratchet strap connecting point). Washed it down and took a couple of shots while it's still in pristine condition!
Finished kit includes BlueSea battery isolator, ICOM M411 DSC radio, Twatsoo tacho and trim gauges, Garmin eTrex GPS, Metz VHF antenna, Mariner 4hp auxilliary and Twatsoo 60hp main engine (original cowl was damaged - hence 70hp).
Special thanks to DHS and Downhilldai for invaluable help regards wiring.
Sea trials set next weekend. Better buy a suitable bottle of Cava for the occasion!
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20 June 2011, 19:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle, Staffs
Boat name: Duma
Make: Shearwater Cutter
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha 200hp
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Spartacus
Your rig looks great!
I had it confirmed by the chaps at Tohatsu that no components are required but a mod to the top carb (exactly what I don't know as yet) and adjustment of the throttle linkages is all that is required to up the motor from a 60hp to a 70hp.
I hope the sea trials go OK. I would be interested to see how you get on since I have a similar size boat and almost the same engine.
p2g
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20 June 2011, 22:14
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,650
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Originally Posted by pow2gran
Spartacus
Your rig looks great!
I had it confirmed by the chaps at Tohatsu that no components are required but a mod to the top carb (exactly what I don't know as yet) and adjustment of the throttle linkages is all that is required to up the motor from a 60hp to a 70hp.
I hope the sea trials go OK. I would be interested to see how you get on since I have a similar size boat and almost the same engine.
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I'll keep you posted. I think the 60hp is more than adequate for the boat. The key thing is to check maximum revs at WOT. The last thing I want is a piston exiting stage right! Prop choice is critical too.
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20 June 2011, 23:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Christchurch
Boat name: Sweet Chilli
Make: Ribcraft 585/Wetline
Length: 6m +
Engine: Honda 90HP Yam 4HP
MMSI: 235084532
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 161
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Originally Posted by spartacus
I'll keep you posted. I think the 60hp is more than adequate for the boat. The key thing is to check maximum revs at WOT. The last thing I want is a piston exiting stage right! Prop choice is critical too.
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HELLO when more power is up for grabs go for it you can always throttle down
It looks like you did a good job on your Ribcraft look at the mess my mate made last year when we rewired my 585.
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21 June 2011, 00:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Warrington/Anglesey
Make: Menai 480SR.
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsoooooooo 70hp
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 665
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looking good spartacus.
If its not a problem to upgrade the power 60>70 DO IT you won't be dissapointed. There is no way that the 60 will over rev pushing the ribcraft along unless you use a small pitch prop. Are you running the standard 15" prop?
Im running a 70hp tohatsu and I upgraded to a 17" SS Vengence prop pushing the 4.8 rib. the motor tops out at 5800 revs.
Do you intend to rig a nav light post or install an A frame and lighting?
When I rigged out my rib I ran the cables from the control box down some flexi conduit tubing. (old washing machine waste pipe) it makes the job a little more tidy IMHO.
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